Tagged With "Writing"

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I want write about Upcoming ICOs

Dinuxen ·
Is the NARRATIVE allow to write about other ICO Just like Steemit ? Or Just we want create Expect Promote other Projects ?
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Show off your Niche

Eduardo Hernández ·
Hi Narrators! So I just paid and, finally, reserved my Niche "Decadence." Again, I do not like at all the idea of just "leasing" my hard thought and earned niche, but that's more politics -and the possible downfall of Narrative in the near future. Anyway, on a less grim and "reality check" note, I am opening this discussion to showing off our Niches, and maybe letting each other know why we created them and what are our intentions with them. I'll start. I'm a writer and a big fan of Charles...
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BLOG

MiguelIglesias ·
When is it planned that you can start publishing post? Thanks
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Finding your inner content creator

Melanie Mathos ·
The countdown to content drafting is on! And we're counting on you to help plant the seeds for content in Narrative. Plus, how cool will it be to say that you were one of the original content creators in Narrative?!? (And don't forget that content creators earn 60 percent of Narrative Rewards .) If you're still trying to find your inner content creator, head over to the blog for some tips on getting started .
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Tips for Getting (Readers) Engaged with Your Content

Melanie Mathos ·
It's Valentine's Day, and love is in the air! But how do you get readers to share the love for your content? What exactly is “engaging” content anyway? Many use vanity metrics such as likes or favorites as a baseline metric. Some dive deeper to quantify by shares or comments. Others actually look at conversions that resulted from a piece of content. (Follows, signups, sales, etc.) The definition of engaging can encompass many factors. One of our favorite takes on the meaning comes from...
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Writing Niche

Garden Gnome Publications ·
The Tribunal recently ruled that the BLOG Niche should be rejected , a win for all Narrators. However, there is still an issue with the Writing Niche , owned by the same Niche owner. I'm inclined to make a similar appeal, but the last time that happened, with the BLOG Niche, Tribunal members rejected the appeal to give the Niche owner time to make changes to the description. BUT, he didn't, which is what led to the second appeal. The problem now is, this Niche owner is Conduct Negative.
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

mrgoodsett ·
It might be a good idea to talk a bit about other sites, you know, check out the competition to see what they do right or wrong. Maybe someone from the staff can let us know the policy on this in the community forum? I know they talk about it on the Narrative Telegram group.
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

Michael Farris ·
It's a good question and I think common sense is a guide. It's fine to talk about other projects in the larger crypto world. You can use good judgment on whether it is of interest to the Narrative community. If people think it's not, you'll know Or we might private message you .... There would be two cases where it's not OK. 1) Outright solicitation to go buy and any related shilling is off limits. I think people know that when they see it. 2) Trashing. An old rule among the people who...
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

mrgoodsett ·
@Michael Farris thanks for the response. Good information to know.
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

cicbar ·
Maybe there is gonna be Nitche ICO’s so you can write there about it...
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

Akshay Shinde ·
I think here we should share our experience about other ICO's only. There is no point to marketing other ico here.
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Re: I want write about Upcoming ICOs

CryptoPhil ·
I also think that it would be a good idea to write about ICO's, but under the guidelines of Common Sense as @Michael Farris had pointed out in his comment to this post. The "Common Sense" guidelines should be be practiced in any content.
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
I completely agree with you about the Writing niche being unacceptable in its current state. But I am also quite certain that the owner wouldn't make any recommended edits regardless of conduct status. The problem in THIS case is that, even if we appeal Writing and the Tribunal (rightfully) rejects it, the best name for its proper replacement is not available. It would be great if Narrative could automatically append "REJECTED" to the name of any rejected niche so the name becomes available...
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Re: Writing Niche

Malkazoid ·
I might be remembering this incorrectly, but I think @Brian Lenz popped into a recent conversation to mention that niche owners can submit edits to their niches while they are conduct negative. I agree the description is not appropriate: writing is about much more than merely "telling your story". It encompasses technical writing, biographical writing (the telling of other people's life stories), writing letters (which does not have to have anything to do with stories at all)... and a lot...
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Garden Gnome Publications ·
I agree with you @Malkazoid . I think we have to operate on a system of fairness and assume the best until proven otherwise. It's possible that this experience has taught him a lesson and he'll consider a change in the description. But, how do we do that without being able to send a direct or private message?
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Re: Writing Niche

Colleen Ryer ·
@Garden Gnome Publications I agree it's time for messaging and this situation is just one reason.
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Re: Writing Niche

BloggerKrunal ·
Right now we don't have any channel on Narrative to send direct messages to any user but we can be in touch with them via Narrative Telegram group. Most active users can be found over there. I'm in touch with @rufans so I will notify him about his post. Because these kind of things somehow affecting Authors and other Niche Owners when 2 or 3 Niches have been tagged. In this case, it's mine "Productivity".
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Vico Biscotti ·
@Garden Gnome Publications , I soon noticed the Writing niche when coming to Narrative and mentioned the problem many times, with no one caring, except the few regulars, most of them already in this discussion. I postponed the appeal to the solution of the BLOG niche, so I'm now open to it. Not only the description is awful but the same confusion applies to any -ing niche. Is it about the product of the -ing or about the process? You know that one member was surprised to learn that the...
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Garden Gnome Publications ·
@BloggerKrunal , I'm not on Narrative Telegram so I have no idea if @Ethereum is or not. If he is, that might be the best approach initially. Otherwise, I have no idea. @Vico Biscotti , I understand your feelings. I might be reluctant too if I were in your shoes. But I don't think justice is served by circumventing processes because we assume they won't be effective, even if the assumption is a good assumption. Going through the steps can be slow and tedious, but it's necessary. I'd really...
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Re: Writing Niche

Colleen Ryer ·
FYI, Niche owners can submit niche edits even while they are Conduct Negative. @Garden Gnome Publications Brian Lentz posted this in the BLOG Niche description thread
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BloggerKrunal ·
@Garden Gnome Publications I tried to find on Telegram but he doesn't seems over there. As I could only find about Ethereum Currency. And he didn't published any post to comment on rather then tagging him on someone else's post, which is definitely not a good idea. In this case I don't see any other option rather than to appeal but it will be rejected for sure based on editing the description reason. I think we should create or use this topic to bring team on board, if they are willing to...
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Re: Writing Niche

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Oh wow, @Colleen Ryer I totally missed that. Thanks! @BloggerKrunal , so you're suggesting we go ahead and wage an appeal and let the chips fall ....
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
I'm all out of patience for basically anything that's going to screw with my various sources of income. The appeal has begun. Feel free to add your own reasons: https://www.narrative.org/hq/appeal/49310581544557906
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
I need backup! Of the Tribunal, at least @Brian Lenz doesn't see the problem(s) with the writing niche in its current form. Please add your comments to the appeal . cc: @Garden Gnome Publications , @Malkazoid , @Colleen Ryer , @Gosia Rokicka , @BloggerKrunal , @Vico Biscotti
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Re: Writing Niche

Colleen Ryer ·
@Christina Gleason - i don't see where I can add a comment, halp?
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
@Malkazoid, I liked this bit from your addition to the appeal: It is for that reason that I did not go on a downvoting spree through Writing as I have some other niches that are spammed with irrelevant content, because the description really is so vague as to cover almost any non-visual content a person can come up with. And I'm not able to see ANY posts actually ABOUT WRITING at a quick glance.
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Re: Writing Niche

Malkazoid ·
Hi @Christina Gleason ... I did not want to get involved with this - I felt the fiasco around the initial BLOG niche appeal was a waste of my energies, and that the Narrative process is insensitive to the fact that appealers put themselves out on a limb trying to improve the messy niche system. We've been verbally attacked, stalked here and elsewhere on social media, and downvoted maliciously by vindictive niche owners. Who in their right mind would sign up for that? I spent a lot of energy...
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
@Malkazoid Oh, sorry for pulling you into it when you didn't want to be. But thank you for your contribution. We keep getting told BUT DEMOCRACY, yet when we speak, collectively, democratically, about what we are MEMBERS see as big problems, we are being told AUTHORITATIVELY - we did not elect the current Tribunal - that our voices don't matter. I'm going to add this to my comment if it's possible to edit my appeal.
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Malkazoid ·
No need to be sorry! On the contrary, I'm honoured that you counted me among those people you felt you could count on. And I did not want to disappoint. My frustration is with the process, and the complete absence of messaging from the Team about the issues we've been voicing to them. Two sentences from them would at least let us know they see the problems the system is causing for us, and that they intend to improve it. I have to believe someone has the time to write those two sentences. An...
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Re: Writing Niche

Colleen Ryer ·
Thanks @Malkazoid !
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Vico Biscotti ·
@Christina Gleason , just added my contribution to the appeal. I was just waiting for others to let them do their negotiation, but I'm glad you opened the dances. I bet the appeal is not going to succeed, but we need to make pressure on this. It's unbelievable how the problem with these niches is ignored. The team still seems to think it's a community thing, that will eventually be solved with the elections of the Tribunal, but the problem with descriptions and catch-all niches is real, and...
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Re: Writing Niche

Gosia Rokicka ·
I added an appeal as well. It just becomes tiring though. I'm just in a weird place in my life where I actually have time for following all this Narrative drama. It provides a good distraction from real life problems. But it's far from my normal state, I usually don't spend that much time in online communities. So I'm not sure how long I'll keep up... we'll see Hopefully things will improve, at the end of the day we're in Beta.
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Re: Writing Niche

BloggerKrunal ·
We were talking about the half glass theory and @Christina Gleason sold the glass. 😅 I don't feel the rejection appeal is a proper way for asking any edits on Niches but due to lack of other options we have to go through it. So I've also added my appeal. I have seen few times that team is encouraging users to create topics or issues on support community to get their proper attention. So here we are now.
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Re: Writing Niche

Colleen Ryer ·
Hopefully the number of voices will get a resolution - and things will go better down the road, all. Just want to butt in @BloggerKrunal , maybe you've already seen it, but if not @Christina Gleason has this new post that I really think would be great to add to your Narrative Guide.
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BloggerKrunal ·
Thank you @Colleen Ryer for guiding me on that post. It's done. 👍 I haven't seen last couple of recent posts due to some other battle I was fighting on Narrative since last 2 days. By the way it's not only my Guidebook it's OURS, so feel free to suggest such helpful posts anytime.
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Christina Gleason ·
Thanks for the shoutout!
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Christina Gleason ·
We tried asking this particular owner to edit one of his other niches, and he launched a troll attack that lasted for days the first time around. We had to appeal it a second time because the Tribunal wanted to give him a chance to edit it. It was rejected this week on its second appeal. He'd had a week after the second appeal to submit an edit, and he decided against it and let it get rejected. That told me everything I needed to know about how asking him to edit the Writing niche...
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Re: Writing Niche

Malkazoid ·
Updated my comment to the appeal, since another Tribunal member has voted to keep the niche. Bob Hope's comment: My updated comment: Why is it so hard for the Tribunal to, at the very least, do what it did for the BLOG niche: ask the owner to improve the definition? Why miss that opportunity? I'm truly baffled.
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Colleen Ryer ·
It is a mystery @Malkazoid , I look at this niche and today, most of the posts are to do with music and photography. I would never expect to find posts like these under a category of "Writing" anywhere on this planet. But the best post there is this one: https://www.narrative.org/post...ative-s-niche-owners . There are niches for the music and photography subjects who's owners are actually here and will have moderators and look after things. These people deserve the rewards. But with niches...
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
WTF, @Malkazoid ? Why is it like this? The Tribunal is completely out of touch with user experience (UX) and I SPECIFICALLY don't follow Writing because it's crap.
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Malkazoid ·
Agreed. I'm not sure there is anything we can do about this, except hope that when we get an elected Tribunal, the process can improve.
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Garden Gnome Publications ·
I'm beyond baffled. This niche violates the very spirit these people rejecting the appeal put into place. It's violating their own policies, and they don't see that. More irksome, the owner of the niche is getting rewards that ought to go to another niche owner, but it's because of the first problem. I'm ready for Tribunal elections.
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Re: Writing Niche

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I also added to my appeal:
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BloggerKrunal ·
@Malkazoid @Garden Gnome Publications @Christina Gleason @Colleen Ryer I also feel that the Tribunal Election only can save us on this. Right now it seems more time and energy consuming event when the committee is not getting any appropriate directions on this. Might be they are struggling for having a better definition for that Niche or stuck within their own policies for not interfering to change the description by them selves.
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Vico Biscotti ·
I'm more than discouraged about how the voting is going. So far, in my opinion, the Tribunal seems not to see the problem at all, and this is especially worrying because it's the Team, the people who provide the framework and will give us the tools. I see no solution to the problem of the niche structure and definition in sight. "The concern of it being a 'catch-all' doesn't invalidate the niche." Does it mean that catch-all niches - like Writing currently is, with this definition - are...
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Gosia Rokicka ·
It's interesting that quite a few people applied to moderate this mess. Some of them with high reps, all of them with good pitches. I wonder how they imagine their job? The niche description provides no guidance in the end...
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Colleen Ryer ·
Yes, it sure would be hard to moderate this one conscientiously, @Gosia Rokicka And I think it also highlights how many people aren't reading the niche descriptions before they post, too.
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Garden Gnome Publications ·
I think there are quite a few new Narrators who do not understand the Niche system. They see Niches as just another way to tag a post, as if they are on Twitter or Instagram. So they tag it where they want it and dare question it. They need an education.
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Malkazoid ·
I think what you just said really underlines why we need to care A LOT abut clear niche definitions. People should be able to just use the niches as tags without putting in any homework. In order for that to work, the niches have to be well defined and well moderated. And as you and others have underlined, good moderation can't happen without a clear definition. Users shouldn't be expected to pick up any of that slack, and I think we'll find it to be a losing effort if we look to them to...
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Re: Writing Niche

Christina Gleason ·
This exactly, @Malkazoid . They keep telling us that WE get to decide how this place is run... then when WE identify a problem, hash out every single thing that makes it a problem, and use the only tool we have available to us to solve that problem, they're like, "Nah." Everything else is, "The community will decide." But when we actually put our reputations on the line, it's like, "Oh no, all of you are wrong. This isn't how we do it." And the decisions they've been making don't even have...
 
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