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The wonderful world of comments

Malkazoid ·
Hello all, my take is that comments should be considered a big part of the life of a niche. I’d love to see our platform implement them really well: this is where people interact publicly... I’m a fan of the way Disqus has implemented its commenting system... the discussion threads are clear, and it is easy to search through one’s commenting activity. I think it would be great to be able to promote really good comments to be visible at the top - a great tool for presenting newcomers to the...
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Emily Barnett ·
Thanks for posting this. Comments are important! They are the foundation of making it engaging. I do like how this comment system allows you to quote someone. It makes it very easy to follow along. I don't like how some platforms post hierarchy is based on reputation. Comments need to flow as they come in. I would like to think that we don't need to implement a reward system for comments, in either monetization or just reputation, however I am not sure if people will engage otherwise. As an...
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Hickster747 ·
I agree. I've noticed that the comments section in the voting is very under used. It could be very useful if people have suggestions to the proposer or want to explain why they voted a particular way.
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RobbyCannard ·
Could a comment when voting be made mandatory or is that an overkill? It would prevent people voting without giving any consideration?
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Emily Barnett ·
NP...happy to help. One thing to remember is that voting down something should only be based on whether something is redundant. There is no personal preference. Also Micro-niches or sub-category niches are allowed, even if the Niche owner of a broad topic doesn't like it. When something is redundant legitimately, usually someone has left a comment saying so. Hope that helps.
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Re: The wonderful world of comments

Emily Barnett ·
Hey @RobbyCannard there already is an option to leave your reason for why you voted down something. And it is very helpful to the person suggesting the niche. I think no votes should include a mandatory reason to why you are voting it down so that we can reduce trolling and/or profiteering.
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Re: The wonderful world of comments

Hickster747 ·
I'm not sure about mandatory. It might discourage people from voting but if someone votes no, it's probably a good idea to explain why. I've noticed one or two of the same people who seem to down vote the most innocuous topics again and again.
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RobbyCannard ·
Fair point, I agree with you though, it would be good to have the option to provide some reasoning behind the vote. Maybe not mandatory but encouraged
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RobbyCannard ·
Thanks @Emily Barnett . Apologies for not spotting that, I'm new to all of this, it's a bit overwhelming but I'm enjoying being a small part of Narrative
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RobbyCannard ·
Thank you @Emily Barnett . Much appreciated.
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mrgoodsett ·
I really like the TAKE ACTION feature on Narrative. I have had to edit a few posts due to rushing and typing on a phone.
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Emad ·
I agree, thanks for post
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Re: The wonderful world of comments

Malkazoid ·
Indeed! Sub-niches are an important aspect of the ecosystem of tags that are niches. To embrace this, I suggested a sub-niche (US Politics) to one of my niches (Politics) as a way of embracing this reality. If there is a sub-niche to one of your niches that you don't want to have stealing too much thunder from it - buy it if possible.
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Narrative Network Team - Releasing posts on Medium

Banter ·
This is just a suggestion. Can the @Narrative Network Team please create a topic in the appropriate forum whenever a new article is released on the Narrative Blog (Medium)? This way we can easily have a discussion about it here, rather than having to create a new topic from scratch each time.
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Niche Organization / Map Feature - Discussion

Banter ·
Here is a link to the Article @Ted posted: How Narrative will Map Niches . First off....I love the idea and think it is a step in the right direction when it comes to organizing / finding Niches. While I do think a hierarchy is important, I think this should ultimately become a graph. We need the ability to relate Niches that don't have a parent child relationship. Just as a random example, I might want to link a Niche on Steroids to an MLB or Baseball Niche. Obviously...
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Rosemary ·
I think that is the goal, and thanks for the reminder!
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Re: Niche Organization / Map Feature - Discussion

Malkazoid ·
Hey Banter! So it is early days and probably there are some things that will become clearer as time passes, but with the understanding I think I have, I agree with you! I think internally, the technical representation of the map may already be a graph, and perhaps what is not yet determined is how that will then be represented to the user: maybe there is the thought that representing the graph as a tree to drill down through might be more intuitive from a user-facing perspective? I don't...
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Re: Narrative Network Team - Releasing posts on Medium

Banter ·
Great, thanks!
Conversation

Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

Christina Gleason ·
I didn't get on Narrative until later this afternoon, when all of the new posts on threads I'd read last night were already made impossible to reply to because the threads had been locked. This is problematic, because we've nailed right down to the heart of several matters brought up in threads with related questions that had been answered early on. Can we start new threads? Sure, but then we lose the context of the original discussion. Thoughts?
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Re: Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

Emily Barnett ·
it is a bit problematic. But I can see the need for them to mark it as answered. Even though it is abrupt it may be better to start a new thread with a link to the originating conversation. On another, but sort of related note, are you @Christina Gleason or anyone else not getting alert notifications on the community page. I will mark that i am following a thread, and never get notified, despite going to it and seeing 4 new posts.
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Re: Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

Christina Gleason ·
I hadn't gotten notifications in over 36 hours until I just saw the one for your comment here, @Emily Barnett .
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Re: Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

Emily Barnett ·
yes. I just saw three myself just in the last 4 hours. I am used to getting 4 to 8 every 6 hours or so. Weird.
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Re: Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

MOLLY O ·
@Christina Gleason , I am the one who closed a couple off yesterday. The point is not to "stifle" conversation but to note that the question was answered. You can always start a conversation or suggestion thread up on the topic. Just trying to keep things organized. I noticed that a couple times the discussions that follow go way off topic and so the conversation or topic or idea may get lost due to the topic title.
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Re: Concern: Threads being marked as Answered are ending side discussions that have merit

MOLLY O ·
@Christina Gleason and @Emily Barnett . Regarding the issue you are having with Notifications. Please check to make sure you are following the types of support. If you follow them, then you should get notifications. Click on the black button "Following Narrative Topics" in the Support Community Tab. Then Choose what types from the drop down.
Suggestion

Niche Specific Discussion Area

Banter ·
There has been some back and forth within the community on how to discuss things specific to a Niche. I propose having a Community area specific to each Niche, something like /n/Dogs/Community. This would essentially be a mini-community site specific to the Niche where people could interact with the owners and moderators in a public and contained way that other Niche subscribers could participate in.
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Emily Barnett ·
I think this is a terrific idea.
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Emily Barnett ·
if this cannot be built in, one work around for each niche owner is to start a thread here on the community page and past a link to it as a reminder from time to time in various posts the owner makes. It isn't an elegant solution but it would give everybody immediate access to make suggestions to the owner, and to be heard amongst the niche community.
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Slaz ·
Agreed. While a content stream should be the center of each niche, an open discussion area might be essential for community building, especially in niches that receive a large amount of content.
Suggestion

Discussions in the Tribunal

freedom ·
In the Tribunal a place to post commentary and arguments. Example Conversations recently: Niche stage has comments https://www.narrative.org/hq/approval/45932351865062242 Unable to comment in Tribunal https://www.narrative.org/hq/appeal/46495305201207410 Need to link or tag to posts for Tribunal to read https://www.narrative.org/post/is-conversations-a-topic
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Attachments to appeal

Vico Biscotti ·
In relation to what happened in the recent appeal about the BLOG niche, where the owner deleted the post with the discussion that lead to the appeal and relevant attitudes of the parties, I suggest to allow to link urls of posts or comments to appeals. Those posts/comments shouldn't be allowed to be deleted/modified. see also: https://community.narrative.org/support/topic/tribunal-process
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Re: While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

Brian Lenz ·
Hi @Vico Biscotti , Thanks for sharing your thoughts. We designed Narrative very intentionally so that edits had to be approved by the Tribunal instead of the community. Niche edits are particularly tricky because we want to prevent fundamental changes in the meaning or scope of a niche to prevent someone from completely repurposing a niche after winning it at auction (something I refer to as "backdooring" a niche). I think this is the heart of your concern as well, so I want to first make...
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While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

Vico Biscotti ·
When the community votes for a niche, discussion and voting is based on the name and the description of a niche. However, a following edit, after the niche is purchased, can significantly change the meaning of the niche, as it happend with Creativity . And the community has no tools to appeal the edit (I already suggested different types of appeal ). I think that a major edit should undergo a discussion similar to the one on the approval phase, even if the niche has an owner. The community...
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Re: While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

Vico Biscotti ·
@Brian Lenz , thanks for your reply. I may agree, in part, that voting from the community may be inappropriate for the edit, but I'm sure that a window of a few days for commenting the edit request before the approval from the Tribunal would be greatly appreciated by the community (I suggested this now, if it may fit better in the plans). I'm sure I'm not the only one to give a big weight to the description, and the description is going to have an important role when moderators will be there...
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Re: While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

Colleen Ryer ·
Um, @Brian Lenz , Voting Tribunal members out as the only way to deal with disagreement over description voting is too limited. I think @Vico Biscotti 's idea of at least some say in edits seems reasonable ahead of final voting has merit. And hopefully would avoid situations where the only way to "check and balance" Tribunal voting, would be to vote people out of the Tribunal ! TY
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Re: While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

blueeyes8960 ·
I also see value in letting the community at least have commenting options for a few days before the Tribunal makes the final vote. What is the harm in getting input? I can see where you might want the Tribunal to make the final vote rather than the community at large, but I would think you would want to know how we feel about it to factor into your decision. Suggesting a way to improve a process shouldn't evoke a comment like "just vote us out" in my opinion. This is still in the Beta stage...
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When Down vote someone , Please reply a comment for justification.

MALAY BANERJEE ·
Sometimes I see someone downvoting me but don't know why I am downvoted by someone. So I want to raise a question for discussion in the community today when someone downvoting somebody, he /she should mention the reason for downvoting in the comments section. Downvoting is needed but for a valid reason is ok but if somebody downvotes others without any valid reason is not good. Please reply in the comment section for discussion. Thanks for everyone .
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Re: When Down vote someone , Please reply a comment for justification.

Colleen Ryer ·
It would be nice if people explained why they downvote, but some won't. It may be because they think the reason for the downvote should be obvious - and sometimes it may be - if the terms of service or AUP have been ignored. I think that having to select a reason helps to keep unfair downvoting from happening very often, but on occasion, it still does. And I do see that some comment if they have an issue with a post, and skip voting altogether - which in my opinion is far better than just...
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