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Narrative support niche vs Narrative 411 niche

Malkazoid ·
Hello... So the fine tuning saga of niche creation and appeals continues. JR brought this to my attention - the same user that proposed the Video Games niche, despite there already being a Gaming niche, has proposed a Narrative 411 niche, despite there being a Narrative Support niche already. In both cases, the questionable new niches were approved by the community. Both new niches now have appeals against them. For the Gaming vs Video Games, the case is pretty clear cut. Almost nobody...
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3 niches won--1 or 2 to go!

Whitmal ·
Hi, Scooped up the table top gaming niche today. I am an avid table top player! Catan, carcasonne, etc... There is a great local gaming store near me, Battleground Games, I hope to get them involved. I think the 5 niche max is a great way to keep people focused. I may limit myself to four. LETS GO! Exciting times on here. Regards Whit
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Narrator publishing other people's images

Malkazoid ·
Hello, I imagine others have noticed this user - his/her handle is Thankgod. Phase 1 Initially, this user posted only single image posts entirely composed of sketches or paintings taken from stock photo sites. Their very low resolution betrayed the fact that these were the preview images, making it highly improbable that the user had paid for the right to use them. https://www.narrative.org/m/ThankGod/journal/recent I Google image searched perhaps 10 of these posts, and verified that this...
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Sergei ·
Congrats on the new niche!
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Emily Barnett ·
Congrats! my family nights involve board games. My adult stepson and his friends come over and I cook and we all play board games. lots of fun. We play vintage board games often because i have a passion for vintage (hence my niche Vintage style) perhaps we will have to collaborate on some content. Ha! we also drink Bourbon, Scotch and Irish Whiskey while playing games...I think there is a three way collab right there!
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MichelleG ·
The whole gaming vs. video games niche debate really confused me because of our closet full of Catan expansions.
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Whitmal ·
played last night.....caused a few broken hearts with a monopoly card....yes I asked to trade first
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Emad ·
great
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pipo092281 ·
Good job and congrats
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John Clare ·
Congrats, but I am really jealous I could not get that niche
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Whitmal ·
Thank you John, I sent you a telegram message. Are you interested in being a moderator?
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Re: Narrative support niche vs Narrative 411 niche

Brian Lenz ·
In my opinion, the two niches are completely different. One is "Narrator Support", which is clearly about support for anyone using the Narrative platform (Narrators). This can include readers, content creators, niche owners, moderators, etc. "Narrative Niche 411" is focused purely on niches. As such, I think it clearly qualifies as a sub-niche that can stand on its own.
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JR ·
Brian, I understand your reasoning, but then I have to ask, what occurs if the sub-niche starts providing support outside of merely Niche support? Do I then have a claim to the tribunal? And does this mean that the Narrator Support Niche can also be used for Niche Ownership support?
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Brian Lenz ·
Hi @JR , that could technically be a concern for any niche. There would be nothing to stop someone from cross-posting a piece of content to both niches, as well. Keep in mind that content creators choose the niches, not the niche owners or moderators. Content creators will likely centralize and focus their content on the more popular niches over time, so this is where good niche promotion comes in. If your niche is successful, it will stand tall as the obvious place to post Narrative support...
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Malkazoid ·
Hehe - I must be tired: I completely overlooked the word 'niche' in the title. I agree, that does make it a sub niche.
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Malkazoid ·
JR, my guess is that the broader niche wins out in this sort of scenario, in most cases. Because a post about with a niche tip is very likely to post to both the niche 411 niche, and your Narrative Support niche? Especially, as Brian mentioned, if you do your promotion well and everyone gets into the reflex of posting all Narrative information to Narrative Support.
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Malkazoid ·
@Brian Lenz Is it possible to withdraw a niche appeal? I know see that there is no conflict between these two niches.
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Brian Lenz ·
@Malkazoid , there's not a way to withdraw an appeal, but no worries. It'll just get approved by the Tribunal again.
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Malkazoid ·
Ok thanks! I'll pay closer attention when I'm getting more sleep. Can't promise when that will be
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Dr. Rick ·
I guess niche appeal withdrawals needs adding your "Features to be added to Narrative" topic as seems a sensible thing to add
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Emily Barnett ·
I know that this is kind of resolved but maybe it would be advantageous for the second one to just be called Niche 411. I think both these niches will make for very busy moderators and as we grow, one may just not be enough. I think this sub-niche is very important to the community.
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Emad ·
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Re: Narrator publishing other people's images

Christina Gleason ·
This is very disturbing. I had previously downvoted a few of this user's images for being tagged in inappropriate niches, but now I will go back and make sure I change my downvote reasons to TOS violation.
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Christina Gleason ·
I posted some links to the stock photo sites hosting a beach chair image: https://www.narrative.org/post...73#49592203133411773
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Christina Gleason ·
I'm finding more through reverse image searches, and the most important thing is that they are NOT all posted by the same stock image artist. They are being taken from multiple artists, so there is not reason to believe that any of this user's work is original.
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Malkazoid ·
Thank you @Christina Gleason !
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Malkazoid ·
Yes - I should have made that more clear in my post - I had reached the same conclusion.
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MOLLY O ·
I understand your concern and we will look into the postings. Just to be clear - you don't earn rewards for your reputation. That said, we have mentioned in a couple of these threads that there is an existing reputation bug so we are aware and will fix when we can. Low quality content will not be rewarded - the best thing you can do is downvote it for low quality. High volume of low quality should yield little return. BTW, In the future, we will have box for you to provide the URL for AUP...
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Christina Gleason ·
@MOLLY O I understand how much must be going into this stuff behind the scenes, but you can see how NOT erasing the bad actor with payout coming up seems more than a little bit troublesome to those of us creating and posting our original content. Any rewards being paid out to bad actors are rewards taken directly from the pockets of everyone who's doing things legitimately.
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MOLLY O ·
@Christina Gleason . You must have missed the first sentence of my reply to which I said we would look into this as Malkazoid reported.
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Colleen Ryer ·
Thanks for the heads up.
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Christina Gleason ·
It's been a long day. Thanks.
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Malkazoid ·
@MOLLY O - thanks. Just one observation - I expect Thankgod will receive rewards for the content because it is not uniformly being recognised as bad content. As I explained, it seems the community had not been able to sufficiently recognise or keep up with the fraud, so quite a few of the posts had a pristine, or above average quality rating. That might change now ... thankfully. I'm glad to read the inference that you were already on top of this, observing and planning how to deal with this!
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Malkazoid ·
The link to the copyright infringement post that Ocrdu had commented on - as predicted, is now deleted. https://www.narrative.org/post/dog-sketch Did Thankgod remove it, or did the @Narrative Network Team ? Hopefully there will be a solution implemented soon so the deletion of the post still leaves a thread that can be accessed so people's comments still exist. There is a fundamental problem with users being able to delete other people's writing. This also begs the question - what happens to...
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Christina Gleason ·
Yes, it's disheartening to see how many upvotes they have, enough for some stolen images to be Featured. I mean, yeah, some of the images are really good...but that's because they were another artist's work. I'm especially angry about this because Thankgod argued with me when I made the mistake of commenting that neither pencil sketches nor watercolor paintings belong in both the Painting and Sketches niches, and that's when I noticed the retaliatory downvoting of some of my posts. (I've...
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Malkazoid ·
@Christina Gleason - I agree he is part of a voting circle. His posts are regularly getting 17 to 20 upvotes, for pixelated images of sketches that are completely generic. This is not the activity of people randomly upvoting in order to game their activity points upwards because that tide would raise all boats. Instead the low quality content Thankgod posts is receiving consistently way above average upvotes. I'm regularly getting downvotes on my content too - it sucks and it is another...
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Vico Biscotti ·
@Malkazoid , I not only fully agree, but I also noticed the pattern two weeks ago (and ThankGod, and not just him) before having evidence. " I may be wrong and I've no evidence, so I'm not going to speak openly, but I see strange connections between a few accounts. And logic tells that the good boy won't use a single account" ( https://community.narrative.or...10#16940894239600010 ). But I've been scolded for saying that. In fact, I didn't have evidence, at the time, so I'm glad about your...
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Malkazoid ·
@Vico Biscotti I remember when you wrote the quote above. In fact I remember the response, perhaps from @David Dreezer , suggesting folks should avoid forming a Narrative Posse... or something to that effect. I remember this well, because it underlined a fascinating contradiction: on the one hand I completely understand the limits and dangers of vigilante justice. On the other, Narrative expects the Community to police itself. It is integral to Narrative's setup, and we're told in a dozen...
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Vico Biscotti ·
And comments, of course. Too many write those serial comments just for visibility (which in part we all know is necessary, of course) but where do you put those comments? On a psychology article of 7 min read? No. Just below a picture or few baiting words. That's the quality that will be rewarded by the number of comments. And I was also said that comments are a measure of quality, even in case of mismatch with votes. No comment on that (pun intended). Useless to say, @Malkazoid , I agree...
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Colleen Ryer ·
The people with the most time on the site will likely spot the most iffy stuff, but even here, viewing habits can get in the way. Even really obvious cheating can missed unless it's pointed out. This will improve, but will be offset by increases in post volume. IMO if there were bots, it would be hopeless. Without bots, and a little less "autopilot" when viewing, it's probably doable - but of course there are other factors that need looking at, too, but beyond the scope of this thread.
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Vico Biscotti ·
@Malkazoid , food for the mind from @Colleen Ryer , in case it was needed: https://community.narrative.or...76#17504021789093776 .
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ThankGod ·
He that must go to equity must go with clean hands... I acknowledge the efforts of the Narrative Team to create and maintain the best content network in the universe, and must apologize openly as a newbie and promise not post any other work existing on the internet as @malkazoid narrated it out of proportion. @malkazoid You claim to be among the founding members of narrative, but I can figure that out in your action and character deformation message written by you, while I only followed your...
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ThankGod ·
He that must go to equity must go with clean hands... I acknowledge the efforts of the Narrative Team to create and maintain the best content network in the universe, and must apologize openly as a newbie and promise not post any other work existing on the internet as @malkazoid narrated it out of proportion. @malkazoid You claim to be among the founding members of narrative, but I can figure that out in your action and character deformation message written by you, while I only followed your...
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MOLLY O ·
Okay, shutting down this thread. Personal attacks have no place here. Let me reiterate - everyone just post good content and rate accordingly. Please don't post another topic in here about the same thing.
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