This is the fourth blog in our series that takes a deeper dive into the early Niches created in Narrative. In each of these, we are also addressing general Niche questions. In this one, there is a reminder on why Niche definitions are important and the process of editing a purchased Niche. Enjoy! Niche Deep Dive: Calling all Sports Fans!
Hey everyone- When we deploy our next major update (focused on KYC/Certification), we will also be increasing the maximum number of niche slots (niches you can own) per member from 5 to 10. Look for that sometime this month.
Some niches from the alpha period, approved in a different situation, now overlap with currently owned niches. Example: Creative Writing . Anybody can buy them anytime, but those niches are now a bad match, and would create difficult situations. The situation of niches evolves with time and keeping niches definitions that were approved in an obsolete situation makes no sense, in my opinion, especially niches coming from the alpha period, which was a totally different environment.
The Tribunal just approved the renaming of a niche from "Humor" to "funny" . Now, I'm confused more than ever. I have repeatedly been said even in the comments of the Tribunal - when the description changed the scope of the niche - that only the name carries the scope of the niche (and that alone is a source of endless discussions). Now, a change in the scope of the name - with no change of the description - has been unanimously approved. A quick surfing on the Web, for example, can let us...
Basically I have the niche Video Game Development, which used to be called GameDev (similar to Reddit). But that's bad for SEO, so I wanted to have better name. Someone had mistakenly I believe suggested Game Development and it was naturally rejected. Now question is, can I rename Video Game Development to Game Development? It's the uniquely approved niche.
Currently, I see not even the number of posts, on the niche page. It would be useful to have it, along with a few other metrics, like unique contributors. I know that even more statistics would be welcome, but a few metrics, to begin with, would be great.
Perhaps these should be time boxed, and disappear after 9 months unsold - if there is interest again later, someone else can submit it (and hopefully buy it after it is approved). Having 170+ pages of unsold niches is a waste of space and effort - and it has been proven that duplicates occur due to nuances in descriptions and titles. Just a suggestion and it would clean up the listing making it easier for someone to find an approved niche to buy.
Hi Molly! I just discovered that my niche https://alpha.narrative.org/n/personal-growth is not unique! I just updated my niche and now I realized, that it is a niche very similar whit my niche: https://alpha.narrative.org/n/personal-development . How can we solve this problem?
@Teddy . I see the issue. Why don't you appeal your niche with the comment above to the Tribunal. The Niche that is approved/purchased first always gets the nod. If yours came later, the niche will be rejected and you will get your payment refunded later.
Well I paid for the niche, I start working on details, but I am afraid, that the other niche was purchased earlier (?!) not sure. But I don´t receive any pieces of information in the past about this scond niche. Just I discover by myself.
Unfortunately, this has happened a handful of times - but not many so far. If it is in fact a dup (Tribunal will review), then you will get a refund. The tribunal will review the two niches in detail side by side. Since we are in alpha - we are still learning a bit here. It will be very easy to see these when the Niche Map is available.
Thanks. Seen that before. But I mean, Narrative should have proper list of all niches. 1- It helps SEO 2- I want one with pagination, and where I can see Niche name, live stats (e.g. posts/members...), and description to see which is interesting. Odd that we still don't have that.
Game Development is still in the system https://www.narrative.org/hq/a...al/31435596528935082 But rejected Niches names are supposed to be able to be re-used after 30 days. https://www.narrative.org/post...ll-features-and-more If I understand that properly the name is available to be used. I can't tell you whether or not the Tribunal would pass it, but I believe that the name should be available. Try it?
Hi @Vico Biscotti - yes, completely agree. I know that niche follower count is already on our radar for the future, but it might be good for others to list specific metrics they would like to see for niches.
Niche follower count and number of posts would be good . I'd also like to see top-earning creators by month. Currently, the top earners are a running total. I'd like to see who are the top contributors month by month.
I totally agree, not only because of the useless infinite list of niches, but also because the niche structure evolves with time, and old niches may be a bad fit with the current situation and - if bought - conflicts may arise. That's why I already suggested an expiry date on niches for sale here: https://community.narrative.or...e-on-niches-for-sale
I hear you MrGoodsett - I still don't like that at all. Reading up on the rest of the initial auctioning system - I now realise a lot of it is well designed though: whereas before, my sense of this injustice was blinding me to the system as a whole. Thinking back to my suggestion of letting folks submit their niches privately, and only the niches that have several members proposing them go to auction - I now can see I failed to incorporate some important details to make it feasible. The way...
I'm REALLY disappointed in @Ted for voting to reject my Niche topic. I'm wracking my brains to give him ( and the others that have followed suit that I've had very positive interactions with like @Harj ) some meager benefit of doubt. Reviewing the brief instructions at the top of the Niche Ballot page are some instructions on how to approach Niche voting. One column for upvoting , and one for rejecting proposed Niches. The first bullet describes...
More and more niches are being suggested on Narrative, which is great. However many of these niches as I see, while valid, are of no real value, and no one is likely to buy them. The result is this becomes overhead for Narrators to vote on and create unnecessary noise. Some people might be suggesting niches hoping it will boost their reputation. For example, I could be suggesting every city in Kuwait, and all are legit. But in fact, Kuwait country as a whole is not a thriving niche. So these...
Thanks for the input, @Banter . I think the issue of the number of niche without bids will be solved (or at least improve) a bit once we allow anyone to register. Keep in mind that the number of participants in the alpha is pretty small currently. Still a valid point you make in that regard, but the fact that we are restricting access to the alpha is also a major factor.
I agree about concern for when the floodgates open. I try to vote on every proposed Niche and am finding that even with the small number of members, there are a lot of duplicate / sloppy submissions and it takes quite a bit of effort to search the DB for similar ones. I can't even imagine what the current system would result in as the user base expands. +1 for a small fee that could be turned into a larger win.
Here is my take on the situation. I used to think, 'Hey just let people post to Niches even if they don't have an owner.' I've since come to think about things a little differently. Narrative's goal is to drive people to post to Niches. If the user can't find a Niche (with an owner) to post to, then they can publish it on their personal Narrative Journal. The economic incentive is clear, people don't make rewards off of their personal journals, this is why they are encouraged to submit to up...
@Banter - good to see you weighing in on this. I'm struggling to see how what you propose above takes into account the expectations of most users. It actually seems extremely far-fetched to me. You're saying that someone who has written one or two articles about a topic should invest $75 in order to be able to make some money from their writing? Do you sincerely believe anyone who is only interested in content creation would consider that reasonable? Not everyone is a content entrepreneur,...
Life is an extremely general topic, of course, still I'm not against. Valid name and definition, not necessarily a catch-all for all posts. I'm more worried about a Manga character being allowed to be the owner of a niche...
This is a very valid point, @Garden Gnome Publications ! It's a shame people didn't leave any comments why they rejected it. I would reject the terrible description, for example. But yeah, now I see there's no point in appealing it, at least to this Tribunal...
I think the expectation is for the moderators, community monitoring, and the reputation system to take care of most issues that arise from inappropriate content (I do realise there are no moderators on personal journals...) But there could be a valid argument to be made in favour of not allowing nudity at all on personal journals?
I can't believe this niche name was approved. This was approved in May 2018. I'd like to think that, today, such a niche name would be rejected, but I have no confidence in the wisdom of the crowd. Limit niche names to 60 characters. This just looks ridiculous. It looks even more ridiculous at the top of a post when you're reading the post.
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