Tagged With "approved"

Topic

Niche Approval Filtering and Sorting

MichelleG ·
Hi, Can we get filtering and/or sorting implemented sooner rather than later on the alpha? I'd like to be able to skip directly to the proposed niches I haven't voted on yet. I'd also like to be able to skip directly to the close votes to read the comments. Anybody else feel this way? -MichelleG
Topic

Arbitrage

Whitmal ·
bitebtc--NRVE is less than one cent LAtoken it is 8 cents I was never approved for bitebtc BUT if some lucky NRVER got the call then please make yourself some MONEY!!!!!!! 7x
Conversation

Unowned niches need to be active

Malkazoid ·
This seems to be the most pressing topic right now, so a good first 'Conversation' for the new version of the community forums. In an effort to see just how many people will come up against the jarring realisation that the tag they want can only be unlocked if someone spends $75, I tested the assertion made by the @Narrative Network Team that most topics are covered by owned niches. So I took some common areas of interest and searched for niches for them. Politics There are a few...
Issue

How Does a User Enter Page 2 and Beyond of Approvals?

Dillon Hamilton ·
I've tried entering page 2 of the approvals page to vote and comment on pending niches for the past few days and I've received an error page in response each time. At first I thought it may be because I'm new and was restricted based on my novice status, but I'm not sure why that would be the case anymore. Is there only one page of approvals or am I doing something incorrectly? Thanks!
Topic

Voting time for suggested niches - a curiosity...

Gosia Rokicka ·
Hello, I have a lot of ideas for new niches and I generally suggest one a day. All of them get approved in the required time of 3 days. Two of them, however, got stuck in the system somehow. 3 days passed and they are still in the queue (both with 100% approval rate though). https://alpha.narrative.org/hq/approval/31576334041314892 - this one is meant to be out of the queue in 4 hours (but it was suggested on 22 Jan) https://alpha.narrative.org/hq/approval/31435596528929870 - this one still...
Conversation

Current niche approvals that are problematic

Malkazoid ·
We had a thread to alert the community to these before there was a move to this newer version of the support site, but I think all those threads are locked now, so here's a new one! Alert the community to the niches that may be receiving the wrong votes in the approval process. Avoiding the need to appeal an approval to the Tribunal lessens their workload and allows them to focus on their core task of developing the platform. This is all the more important now, because after Beta launch, a...
Issue

50/50 not a clear defeat

MD Nijam ·
For my niches i need another 3 days approval period because it's 50/50 not a clear defeat. niches link: https://www.narrative.org/n/flowers
Issue

Reputation Blow Due to Narrative's Change of Policy

Nuno Moreiras ·
Dear Team, Following my post " Why We Need Niche Edit Requests to Niches in Auctions ", I would like to request that the reputation lost due to the rejection of the "The Narrative Members Yellow Book" be restored to my account, since there is no way for the community to foresee changes in the AUP and company policy with less than a month notice. Also it would be nice if "The Narrative Members Yellow Book" status would be changed to Approved or at least deleted so that it could be submitted...
Conversation

Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Emily Barnett ·
I originally voted for the niche Was I Wrong . I Even thought it was an interesting topic. However, this morning as I noodle around Narrative's ToS, and AUP, and even the Community standards policy for Medium, I am beginning to feeling that this is a topic we shouldn't approve. And would like to share my perspectives and get some other opinions given what i am about to point out, before the voting time frame is up. Narrative ToS under section 3. Content it states: By submitting Your Content...
Suggestion

Niche suggester name on approval page

Malkazoid ·
Hey, When voting to approve niches, the page we land on when we click on a niche from the list of niches voting page, is a page with the following: - Niche name and description - Vote yes or no section - A summary of stats about the niche's approval - List of current votes for and against - Comments The username of the person who suggested the niche is completely lacking from this page. It makes it difficult to address comments directly to the niche suggester, which is something we often do...
Question

Niche approval delayed

Vico Biscotti ·
I see the approval of the Writing niche has been delayed. Yesterday I saw 1 hour was left, and now 23 hours are still there... At the same time, I saw niches with fewer points and upvote% not delayed ( The Writing Room , for example, didn't go through that, from what I saw). Any explanation?
Suggestion

The approval of a niche displays the new description and not the original one

Vico Biscotti ·
As I recently noticed with the edit of the Creativity niche , the approval of the niche displays the new description, instead of the one originally approved. The new description may be very different from that approved by the community and this is confusing when consulting the approval. I think it would be better to display both the original and the current descriptions, in the approval page.
Suggestion

While niche approval needs community voting, the edit of the niche - even a major one - doesn't

Vico Biscotti ·
When the community votes for a niche, discussion and voting is based on the name and the description of a niche. However, a following edit, after the niche is purchased, can significantly change the meaning of the niche, as it happend with Creativity . And the community has no tools to appeal the edit (I already suggested different types of appeal ). I think that a major edit should undergo a discussion similar to the one on the approval phase, even if the niche has an owner. The community...
Suggestion

In case of an edit request of a niche, allow comments from members before the approval from the Tribunal.

Vico Biscotti ·
Like it happened with Creativity , the edit of a niche description can be a major one. The community approved the niche when the description was very different, moderators nominate themselves (and will operate) also based on the description, and some members (like me) will take the new description into consideration when following or submitting. While the Tribunal takes care of the approval and always has the final word, it could be fair - and certainly appreciated - to allow the community...
Issue

Niche Approvals got extended

BloggerKrunal ·
I suggested few Niches 3 days ago which are still under approval stage for another 3 days. I think we are facing some technical issues here.
Conversation

Flowers Niche need community support.

MD Nijam ·
This niche need your support,The niche to discuss everything flower-related - cultivation, floristry, species of flowering plants. Here is the link: https://www.narrative.org/hq/a...al/53814911887617182 NOTE: This is a valid Niche.It doesn't conflict with "Petals,Petals and flowers are not same thing.Still if you have any doubt please read this @Bashar Abdullah's post. https://www.narrative.org/post/game-of-niches
Suggestion

Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Instead of rewarding all niche suggestions with a rep bonus, how about rewarding niche suggestions based on their value to the community as gauged by approval rating and whether or not they are ever purchased. If a niche suggestion is rejected, the suggester should see a slight negative reward based on the weight of the approval rating. The same for approvals. For instance, if a niche suggestion gets a 45.7% approval rating, the niche suggester gets a very slight negative hit to rep, but if...
Reply

Re: Arbitrage

twitch.tv/billybonus ·
Its no use. Trading volume is so low that even if you buy with $100 at bitebtc price will pump to same as LAToken have. Unless you have a trading bot that makes it automatic
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

BloggerKrunal ·
Here is the correct link. https://www.narrative.org/hq/a...al/52688828680543802 I checked Narrative Spec and nothing like this is mentioned that even 50% approval leads to Niche rejection. It's not a win but not on loosing side either. It's a tie and it deserves another 3 days of extension period for further voting until we get clear results.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Bashar Abdullah ·
According to the white paper, niche needs more than 50% votes to become authorized "Once the voting period is complete, if the Niche receives a vote score greater than 50% it becomes an authorized channel". Since obviously enough people have voted, and it's not greater than 50%, it seems to be like fairly rejected by votes.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

BloggerKrunal ·
Great, I haven't seen that in white paper. I just referred SPEC. Thanks for bringing this up. But still I feel 50% is not a solid ground to decide the final results because it's a tie.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Bashar Abdullah ·
That would be a valid suggestion then for the future. But for this niche, it seems to be decided and no reason for extension.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

BloggerKrunal ·
We should add such missing details from white paper to SPEC. So users don't need to refer 2 things. As they might get misunderstood easily by inadequate details.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

MD Nijam ·
maybe right but i didn't get red side(down vote) 50.01% for reject my niche,also didn't get 50.01% for approved it was 50%/50%.for now maybe it's not a big thing but in future?
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Bashar Abdullah ·
I agree with @Former Member on this one. I'd rather have more strict rule to approve new niches. 51% in general means there is huge debate about it, and will open door for so much abuse. It's a matter of preference, and I'm inclined towards being more conservative in approving niches.
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Christina Gleason ·
As a side note, did Narrative remove the option to appeal a niche rejection?
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

David Dreezer ·
Not intentionally. It's been logged now. Thanks @Christina Gleason
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Christina Gleason ·
Thanks!
Reply

Re: 50/50 not a clear defeat

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Whenever issues are brought up during the voting process and it results in this close a result, I think a run-off would be in order. Several early voters don't go back and check on a niche suggestion after they've voted. Based on the comments, they might have changed their votes. This particular niche has a very interesting nuance that most niche suggestions are not going to have with regard to how it plays with another niche. I think that bears a bit more scrutiny. Therefore, I would...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Christina Gleason ·
I like the second half of your proposal better than the first. Rewarding the suggester with rep based on market value is a great incentive. However, we've seen some unethical behavior from some voting blocs of users who have been determined to block valid niche suggestions from getting approved until Team members weighed in with their own votes to approve, so the first part of your suggestion will unfairly penalize niche suggesters who are targeted by one voting bloc or another for reasons...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Malkazoid ·
Thanks for posting this.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I agree @Christina Gleason . Narrative's algorithms have to get better at detecting anomalous user behavior.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Antimetica ·
I like this idea. I wish it could be applied retroactively, because a lot of the really good premium niches have already been vetted, and suggested by people, who did not purchase them for lack of funds.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Sardart ·
I agree with @Antimetica . Any change in the calculation of the reputation must be retroactive. Otherwise it would be an unfair provision that consolidates acquired positions but prevents new users from growing their reputation with the same rules used for others.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Robert Nicholson ·
The reward system is intended to reward and incentivize behaviors that are beneficial to Narrative. With that in mind, I'd be in favor of removing rewards for niche proposals entirely. There are already thousands of niche proposals - many of them quite bad, and some that are conflicting or redundant. Most will never be bought. Reviewing niche proposals takes a huge effort, and I suspect that's why so many bad proposals get through. I don't see how any of this benefits the platform. If I...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Christina Gleason ·
I suggest niches that I can see myself contributing to, even though I now have reached the limit of niches I can own. Or something I've noticed is missing because of sub-optimal niche tags I've seen on other people's posts. That being said, I'm not against the removal of activity rewards for niche suggestions either.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Antimetica ·
The thing is Christina, you write AWESOME descriptions. Your niche titling and descriptions are really pro. You should be rewarded for suggesting niches honestly, even if you do not buy them, because of the quality you contribute that a potential niche owner. Which makes me wonder if it's a requirement for a niche owner to be also a good writer? Because I've seen people debate this about niche owners as purely investors (absentee) vs. active participants. I feel like in the case of an...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Malkazoid ·
@Robert Nicholson , @Christina Gleason - really good to consider removing all rep boosts for niche suggestions at this juncture. I agree, we already have thousands of niches, and the platform only really benefited from the incentive when it needed the core niche-sphere to be 'discovered'. @Sardart - good to consider the shift in dynamic for new users. In my view, the priority is to remove the gaming of the system, if people are proposing niches they don't intend to buy and are unlikely to be...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Malkazoid ·
@Antimetica - you're touching upon a huge point of contention with your very reasonable assessment! Since the early alpha, the Community has been somewhat divided about the notion of descriptions receiving help from other Narrators besides the owner. Idealism has so far prevailed over pragmatism: the Team seems to prefer the approach that poorly written niches will simply fail, while well written ones will thrive, naturally pruning the system of poor niches. Unfortunately, this doesn't make...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Christina Gleason ·
Thank you so much for that. I needed some validation today, and I appreciate the recognition of my efforts.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I agree with @Malkazoid that the priority is to remove the gaming of the system. Initially, it benefited the platform to have a slew of niche suggestions ready to purchase, but that time has past. It might be impractical for the team to focus on changing the algorithm of rewards retroactively. While it might be a good solution @Sardart , it's not great if it takes energy away from improving the platform in other ways. Fairness is not linear, nor static. I would say that it was fair in the...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Sardart ·
I don't know how much niche suggestions and approval mechanisms can have on the reputation calculation. Only the team knows this ... So the team will be able to evaluate the possibility of injustice introduced with a change in the rules on the calculation of the reputation when the games are still open. Because it is clear that this change would maintain certain acquired privileges unchanged and would make the scalability of the reputation for newcomers more difficult (or at least...
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Christina Gleason ·
Niche suggestions were the ONLY way to gain rep during the alpha. Alpha users were disadvantaged because we did a LOT of work to help build the community without getting rewarded for it in any way. For new users, creating good content is a MUCH better way to help the site and gain rep.
Reply

Re: Reward Niche Suggestions Based on Approval Rating and Market Value

Sardart ·
Suggesting niches is much easier than creating good content. So by changing the rules on the calculation of reputation now, new users would be disadvantaged twice. This is why I say that, in this case, the change should be retroactive.
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Colleen Ryer ·
I see your point - a clearly identified quote from a published source is fine, but repeating private conversation without clear permission probably isn't.
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Emily Barnett ·
The second thing that I noticed, which isn't directly applicable, but only because our AUP is not very flushed out and because we don't have a community standards policy of our own. So looking at Medium's CSP it states this, which I find very relatable to this suggested niche: Medium Community Conduct Privacy and Reputation We do not allow the following: Posting copies of private communications between private individuals without the explicit consent of all parties to the communication. I...
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Emily Barnett ·
An Addendum to my point.... We do have an AUP that states no harassment. I guess one has to determine if this niche is by it's very nature, capable of harassing, or bullying other people, by being publicly judged, when one party didn't ever agree to it, may not be aware of it in order to present their side of the argument...anonymously or not, I think it it definitely can quickly blur into harassment. Regarding the anonymous bit, it seems totally irrelevant. One only has to copy and past a...
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Garden Gnome Publications ·
As with all human behavior, I would put the onus of responsibility on the actor. However, the sentence above from your last post @Emily Barnett brings up an interesting point. Since such comments are public, the person making them has no right to claim privacy. Even in the physical world, a word spoken in a public place is not private communication. It is public and, therefore, quotable. Regarding actual private communications, I think the Medium CSP is problematic because if you send me an...
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Ted ·
FYI-- the Narrative AUP already says:
Reply

Re: Concerns about the niche suggestion Was I Wrong

Emily Barnett ·
ok, @Garden Gnome Publications i am a bit confused by your bouncing back and forth, so bare with me if I got something wrong as I respond to your post. 1. Narrative's AUP states you cannot post anything identifiable. Many people choose to remain anonymous on this platform, so even linking information that can link to a social media account that does have the persons public identity seems to me to be a breech of the AUP as I read it. I don't think you can say that the there is no onus on the...
 
×
×
×
×