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Rock the Vote!

MOLLY O ·
Hey Everyone, Don't forget to vote on Niches. With an influx of new members, there are a lot of new Niche suggestions in the Ballot Box. Please go in and vote. Remember, voting on niches helps build your reputation on Narrative! Molly
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chrisabdey ·
Sometimes it becomes rather tedious and hard to go in and vote for niches - I notice you need to scroll through all of them (even ones you voted for) and the ones that are "new" or you still need to vote on are sometimes in the middle, and only visible because you have the arrows on them.. Don't suppose we could get a filter of some sort to make it easier to only see the ones that need voting? *Also separate gripe - "Pencils" seriously?
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MOLLY O ·
@chrisabdey - the good news is that you can actually see the Niches you voted for (it should show your vote and ask if you want to change). Maybe concentrate on the ones that are on the first page that are expiring.
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Crystal ·
Not sure if I should start a new topic but a few days ago I suggested Insects....today someone suggested Insects aand Amphibians. ....? What do you think about that sort of thing? It seems like it should be 2 separate niches.
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MOLLY O ·
@Crystal . There can certainly be "related niches". See this blog about Niche Relationships . The community will vote to see if this is a duplicate…but I can see how this one is a bit on the grey line. Ideally the first one proposed should get the thumbs up. You can vote the other one down (Insects and Amphibians) and indicate why. Suggest you include a comment that suggest that this focus on just Amphibians….or something to that effect. Others who are voting will then see your note. The...
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Crystal ·
Thanks @MOLLY O
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Banter ·
Goodness....just looking through the list of Niche's that need votes and it is a bit overwealming....not to mention time consuming. Could the @Narrative Network Team make the ballot box sortable, so at the very least I can see the Niches I haven't voted for yet on top? I'm wondering if we should incentivize Niche voting from a community perspective....I know reputation will be affected if you are voting against the majority, but I don't think it takes a hit if you aren't voting...which makes...
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Re: Rock the Vote!

MOLLY O ·
@BANTER. Thanks for getting in there and trying to vote. Right now, I don't anticipate any changes to Chaucer on the ballot box. Our developers are heads down right now and focused on the beta. We do recognize that Niche ballot box voting can be a bit overwhelming. The good news is you can actually see if you voted so skip by those. Some of us on the Narrative Team who spend a lot more time in the Niches have been going in there and adding comments (e.g., there is already a niche with...
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Mass ·
It's been a few days since I am approved as an alpha member, I have already started voting! Let's see which if I can bag some niches for myself!
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cara ·
The fact that there are "related niche's" allowed is the reason I would not purchase a niche right now. I don't see why someone would pay for niche's today the prices are outrageous. Niche's only have value if Narrative is a success and assuming it will be, tokens are a better investment. Paying thousands of tokens for a Niche is ridiculous. I would rather save up tokens and buy popular niche's. The only reason Narrative can get away with such high prices is because the typical above average...
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Holla ·
Still plenty of good niches available but I got my five already. And my wife got one niche. I wish you happy hunting!
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Billy ·
I think we need a thread so we can share any of our niches. There is search box i know. Just an idea *GRINS
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Malkazoid ·
@MOLLY O - just had a thought about voting. It would be helpful to have a function we can opt in for, that emails us a digest of new niches to vote on periodically. The default could be set to once every 3 days, but with options to make it much less frequent if that's more appropriate for some folks. It could also default to sending us 12 new niches to vote on each time, but with settings for more, or less. If opting in to this function is presented as part of the sign up process, and it is...
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Rosemary ·
Ooh, interesting...I like the concept of opting in to a "currently up for voting" type of digest.
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chrisabdey ·
I think it's a good idea. Especially now. I mean, I honestly get busy and kind of forget to check sometimes.
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MOLLY O ·
@Malkazoid . Good ideas. I always like Opting in "options". We don't want to bombard people with lots of emails - especially if they have no interest in voting. When the platform opens up more broadly, I don't think we will have issues with getting people to vote…especially when they realize they can be earning more rewards. That said, making it easier for those who want to spend the time to vote is a good thing.
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Stop complaining about exchanges and help build a massive narrative community.

Daniel Kamara ·
I have only started to get heavily invested in crypto for close to 2 years now. But what I have learned in this short amount of time is that what makes a coin/token succeed is the community. So for the people who complain about when exchange or why the price has gone down, all you're doing is help create more doubt for possible investors. I was definitely one of those negative people who doubted Bitcoin back in 2009. I looked at it as a joke. I had friends and family ask my opinion on It and...
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Michael Farris ·
Thanks @Daniel Kamara for a ++ perspective. As we've been posting since day one of the ICO, the value of NRVE is in the active platform. There thousands and then millions will be using NRVE for all fees, rewards tips, advertising and more. It's the economy there that drives value. Those looking for quick returns in the opening days of exchanges, are, with respect, looking in the wrong place! Look ahead. The real question is not so much "when exchange" as it is "when platform?" For that we...
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Emily Barnett ·
Hear, Hear. well said @Daniel Kamara ... I absolutely agree with you. It is so difficult being on telegram with so many FUD-de-duds, just acting so miserable. I think we need an army of positive people to get on telegram and talk about the constructive things that they do each day to build up Narrative in order to drown out the self-sabatoge that seems to be taking place. Thanks for the great post.
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Malkazoid ·
It is hard to miss that the vast majority of the folks in question are in this for a quick buck. The crypto multi-bagger crowd. It's not pretty, to be honest - that level of greed, but ultimately I think it will cause many of them to pass by one of the sounder investments in the cryptocurrency space - Narrative. The smart money will go to working products, as opposed to pump and dump coins. The gains are less eye-watering in the short term, but the chances of success are higher. I expect...
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Emily Barnett ·
Great to have you back, my friend.
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Malkazoid ·
Thanks Emily - I'm easing back. The non-virtual world is demanding a lot from me: I hoped for some down time after this last trip but it just isn't in the cards. Good to 'see' you again!
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Redundant/invalid niches - report them here

Malkazoid ·
Redundancy anyone? As you all probably know - Narrative niches need to be unique, clear, correctly spelled, and to not violate the Terms of Service . To coordinate down-voting of redundant or invalid niches, rather than creating dozens of threads, we can alert the community here in one place. Bookmark the thread for easy access, and follow the thread to be alerted via email when there are new posts. Remember - voting to validate or invalidate niches under review, builds your Narrative...
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Bryan ·
Please read Niche titles and descriptions carefully. If a Niche is poorly written and gets approved... it's "approval" is a testimony to the efficacy and quality of (to borrow @Ted 's language) "The Wisdom of This Crowd." And, there are some Niches getting upvoted that should not. Here are a few from my perusing of the ballots this morning. I try and always leave a comment when I vote no in order to help clarify the thinking behind my vote. Beta Testing...
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Malkazoid ·
Thanks for raising the issue of poor descriptions again Bryan. I feel like this has not been clearly addressed by the @Narrative Network Team . My sense from Tribunal votes is that niches with seemingly viable names, but imperfect descriptions, seem to get approved by the tribunal? Which in turn forces me to vote in a similar fashion, because I don't want the rep penalty for voting out of step with how the Tribunal will finally vote - even though I suspect it would be better for us to reject...
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Bryan ·
Another Niche falling into the Dictionary Trap . https://alpha.narrative.org/hq...al/13279573545214159 If I submitted " the " as a Niche... and " described " it as: Would this fly? Should this fly? It just takes a couple extra seconds to present a point of view on the type of content that could be submitted to a Niche. And then, that point of view should be written using complete sentences.
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Bryan ·
I guess I don't care if I'm out of step with the Tribunal. I was drawn to this project because I believed that quality content was an integral aspect of building the new content economy. It's hard to criticize people for submitting definition Niches when the @Ted is doing it too. Come on, Ted! I agree @Malkazoid that we're rewarding/creating bad behaviors. It's just easier to approve things and let Time sort it out. I could just approve all Niche submissions. Knowing that the bad ones will...
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Malkazoid ·
So in the case of the San Francisco niche - I'm torn. Specifying what San Francisco is may in fact be enough for most people, since it is kind of assumed the niche is destined to receive anything relating to the city. Then again, since the extra clarity coming from a more explicit description can't hurt and in other instances, is really desirable - I think I'm still in favour of seeking more specificity across the board rather then defining complex exceptions to a rule. Some niches simply...
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Malkazoid ·
https://alpha.narrative.org/hq...al/12294394685581581 Misspelled name here... Papua New Guinea is the correct spelling. Please downvote to avoid this going to the tribunal.
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Ted ·
As I said in the white paper: Of course a definition is acceptable for niche title. A niche is just a unique subject, so the point of the description is to DEFINE/CLARIFY what the title is. So, yes, I am guilty of using definitions in descriptions because that is the purpose of a description-- to define and bring clarity to what the niche represents. I also want to be clear about something else. Niches are not "communities". So a description that says something like, " a place for mom's to...
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Bryan ·
Is requiring definitions/descriptions part of the problem then? What ends up happening in voting claims/arguments is really more about the converging/diverging of semantics (see: games, gaming, video games!) than arguing over title word choice—though they are both problematic. This is further complicated by the notion of someone being able to "own" these Niches. My vision for gaming might be different than yours. "I would run my hotdog stand much different than you'd run yours..." To use...
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Ted ·
Descriptions are very important because a title alone can be ambiguous and by itself may even have more than meaning (many words do). I'm really not following your logic here, @Bryan . A definition is the perfect way to clarify the meaning of niche. What else is there? A community may certainly develop around a niche, in that it has its own unique set of followers, but the niche itself is just a subject. That is the distinction. And the content posted to that niche is the important part. The...
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Bryan ·
The Niche system is cool, but it's not perfect. This is a new content economy. The model is new. It has flaws. The longer that flaws (even if they are flaws of understanding and not execution) persist, the taller the building becomes with unstable bits in its foundation. As a Founder, and a very interested and vest member of this community, I am trying to provoke/test some of the weaknesses of the system to make it better... not tear it down. It is troubling that my reputation (the more I've...
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Malkazoid ·
Correct me if I am wrong, but what I understand from @Bryan 's posting on this matter is that merely defining the word(s) of a niche name can actually be confusing. 'Celebration' is a good example of that. The description takes the dictionary approach. Ok great. Except, everyone already knows what a celebration is. What we really want to know is what type of content belongs there - we might not be inclined to do the thinking on this ourselves, or perhaps not with sufficient confidence.
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Malkazoid ·
I agree with this, and I think the solution is for the Team to fairly rapidly start homing in on more specific guidelines for what a good niche name and description is. Or rather, to enforce them and make not following them cause for rejection. Molly wrote a great Medium blog post with such guidelines, but they are not enforced. That's where the problem arises. On the one hand we're rewarding people for suggesting niches that get approved even if they don't follow the quality guidelines. On...
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Ted ·
We have not disclosed the reputation formula, so I would not make too many assumptions about the importance of one thing versus another. I think this is a bit much. Are niche descriptions really an unstable flaw? I think we are beating a dead horse at this point, but I want to make sure you understand that your opinions and feedback are welcome. That does not mean that we are always going to be in agreement, of course, but different perspectives are always welcome.
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Bryan ·
I agree descriptions are important. I believe a description goes beyond a definition. One taps the aesthetic perspective, the other taps a clinical one. Define your spouse. Describe your spouse. These should be very different responses. So, to answer your question, the "logic" I am using may not be logical by definition, but there is a method to my madness. I am design-focused, rooted in delivering aesthetic experiences. I believe people are more likely to be inspired, moved by, aesthetics...
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Bryan ·
Sorry, what else can you do with a dead horse but beat it!? "Flaw" may be the wrong word... but, I believe it can be improved. Already it (the voting process) has been improved quite a bit from the first attempt. I'm just saying I don't think we've arrived yet. I appreciate that you're taking some time to discuss. It's difficult to raise objections in a text-only medium where my genuine concern for the success of the project carried by the "tone" of my voice gets reduced to glyphs on a...
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Michael ·
I completely agree, based on my interactions with the platform. It should be up to the developers to first accept that they have a problem with their voting mechanism, and that it would be a mess (to say the least), if this project were to scale to even double the size, with Niches being populated. (10K users) Nobody on this platform should be voting on Niches if their reputation is negatively effected. That's not a practice that will scale. This is quite obvious. These things can be fixed,...
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Bryan ·
Redundant. https://alpha.narrative.org/n/travelogue
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Malkazoid ·
Good catch Bryan. The suggester of the niche made a good defence in the comments, but I'm afraid for me this niche does remain redundant. I don't see the notion of passion for travel, or the aspiration for the niche to be a 'club' as distinctive enough from the existing Travel niche because the name 'Travelogue' does not embody those distinctions. Call it "The Passionate Traveller: People who live for travel and experiencing new places and cultures. We are not your average holiday-makers or...
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Malkazoid ·
@Erik Blair , @Michael - are you on Telegram? I'd like to be able to message you as you both seem committed to supporting Narrative's community development.
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Erik Blair ·
I'm not on telegram, but I got this message... I rarely use messaging apps. How about FB messenger? or here? Is there a Private Messenger feature here? I'm ok with keeping in contact.
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Michael ·
No, I don't use Telegram. I'm a big fan of keeping my community involvement out in the open, along with any interactions. The ICO industry has matured away from the 'telegram phase' and more into a business where development needs to be transparent and open for all to see. After all, an ICO is a community-owned business venture. If a community or team has issues to address, it needs to be seen by everyone. Anyone is free to reach out to me on this platform.
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Malkazoid ·
No worries Michael. I understand your preference, although I don't think it can be generalised to a rule for ICOs in general... and I don't even see us as part of the ICO industry. Instead I see us as a community, and I think there will always be a use-case and a need for private communication in any human community: not sure why this one would be an exception.
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Emily Barnett ·
Actually @Ted A Niche is exactly "a place" by definition and the word does not mean a subject, no matter what you write in your white paper. The word itself, by definition implies community far more than it implies a subject. Please see the definition of "niche" inserted below. So yes, a description that says something like, " a place for mom's to hang out," is actually a technically Correct description. And a description of a subject, is technically incorrect, no matter what your white...
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Malkazoid ·
The latest niche suffering from Dictionary Definition syndrome: ----------------------------- https://alpha.narrative.org/hq...al/14124068787930351 Population Description: The volume of people living within a set area of land. ----------------------------- As Dylan (the first person to comment on the suggested niche) expressed perfectly: "What exactly is this niche going to include posts about? Population statistics, trends perhaps? It just seems you've defined a noun. Apologies for my...
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Gord ·
I think they should just turn suggestions off at this point. At least until beta launch, preferably until the reputation system is implemented. There are plenty Niches available for sale now, but that pool is being diluted while the few active members are becoming frustrated.
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Malkazoid ·
I'm curious what everyone makes of this one: https://alpha.narrative.org/hq...al/13701841665512174 Ulogs Reproducing here the comment I left on the proposed niche page: Thoughts? I have not voted yet.
 
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