Tagged With "quality"

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Priorities for improving niche validation

Malkazoid ·
Fellow Narrators, Some riveting discussions have been raging over niche validation, and how we might improve it. I've reached a point where some certainty has emerged on at least one aspect of the problem, and any certainty is probably good to focus on and try to expand from. I've become convinced that we need to take rapid and real steps towards fostering dialogue around each niche we validate, before we vote. The rest of this post will help you follow my train of thought, and I hope, get...
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Redundant/invalid niches - report them here

Malkazoid ·
Redundancy anyone? As you all probably know - Narrative niches need to be unique, clear, correctly spelled, and to not violate the Terms of Service . To coordinate down-voting of redundant or invalid niches, rather than creating dozens of threads, we can alert the community here in one place. Bookmark the thread for easy access, and follow the thread to be alerted via email when there are new posts. Remember - voting to validate or invalidate niches under review, builds your Narrative...
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Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Malkazoid ·
Hello, @MOLLY O recently posted an excellent blog post regarding how to suggest viable niches. A quote from this article: I recently submitted an appeal to the Tribunal regarding this niche: https://alpha.narrative.org/niche/shopping The description of the niche is clearly mismatched: "all article related to shopping online" The problem exhibited by the description mismatch for the Shopping niche is exactly the type of problem warned against in Molly's article, and yet...
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On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Ogochukwu Onyema ·
Hello Everyone. This is my first narrative post and I wanted to use it to address the core concern that I have for this platform. Blockchain platforms have been hailed as those which has come to democratize the opportunity that online platforms provide people. The joy of blogging on a platform where you are free to express yourself to the fullest is one that we have all enjoyed over the past few years starting from Steemit. Don't waste your time online, spend it on Narrative This is a quote...
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Quora's 'Spaces'

Malkazoid ·
Hello, As we get nearer to Beta launch, and with Narrative niches being so central to the platform, I think we should keep an eye on what else is out there that is similar. Quora now has something called 'Spaces', that are similar to niches in a number of ways, from what I can see. https://www.quora.com/spaces I've only just noticed them. So far, it looks like they collect content related to a specific theme like niches will. Like Niches, they are community run, with admins (who moderate).
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Niche quality control

Malkazoid ·
Quick note about niche approvals in general. It may be that the prerogative was initially to get as many approved niches as fast as possible. I certainly get that impression with niches that the Tribunal is approving in appeals, and the way Team members are voting. I think it would be healthy to strongly question this prerogative. We now have 2128 approved niches. These were achieved from a user base of less than 6000 members. Niches are still being suggested at a steady rate. I don't think...
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How do you standardize clarity?

Emily Barnett ·
I have been an active Narrative member since before Alpha launched. One of the most fascinating things about being one of the early adopters is getting to watch how the platform continuously change, as new crops of people affect the development of it. It is truly exciting! As of late though, I am noticing a voting tendency, that I would like to call attention too, because in my opinion could become quite problematic. I am noticing Niche down-voting tendencies because the description "could...
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Need Quality Moderator For My Niche

narrativebd ·
I am the niche owner of My Culture, Your Culture. I am from Bangladesh. We have a beautiful culture & I want to promote my wonderful culture with others. I also eagerly want to know the different culture of different countries. Through this platform, I want to exchange different culture & take positive from a different culture. To manage all of the things I need 2 quality moderator those have enough experience about culture. Those are interested apply here & express yourself why...
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The death of Simple Rep

Malkazoid ·
Hello all, So we've all noticed the change in rep calculation. Overall, the changes have leveled the playing field, which is not necessarily a bad thing. But I'd like to dig a little deeper and see if perhaps we've gone a little too far with this change. My understanding of Simple Rep is that it accrued with voting, suggesting niches and commenting. The logic behind this was simple but important: it is good to motivate users to participate in these important aspects of Narrative. It not only...
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Low quality content

Debbie Meier ·
This might sound like a basic question, but here it is: Until moderators are elected, what should niche owners do with content they consider to be of low quality, even if the topic of the article is relevant to the niche? Should they: - allow the general audience to vote the article up/down or do so on their own? - as it isn't possible to DM, should the niche owner provide a detailed comment about what they think should be improved? - delete the article? Also, as a side note, I am busy...
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Content removed for AUP violation does not affect Quality Analysis

Vico Biscotti ·
Yesterday, a member had 7 articles removed for AUP violation. He had a penalty for the conduct, but his quality analysis is still a whopping 98. Apart from the fact that I still don't understand how having his last 10 articles with a rating below 80% gives him a quality analysis better than most other members (already discussed here: https://community.narrative.or...xcessively-rewarding ) - but that's another story - I think that having articles removed for AUP violation should affect...
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Tweak algorithm to favor longer content

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I have seen several posts on the Narrative platform suggesting that long-form content is discouraged and that short-form content is preferred. Some Narrators actually post shorter posts more often so that they can increase their rewards, and it seems to be working. Unfortunately, many of those posts aren't very high quality. I know I have high standards, but if anyone studies the history of Google's search algorithms, you'll find that Google has spent thousands of hours studying their own...
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Reputation - Quality analysis

Szabo ·
Hello! My quality analysis is 30, with a sad emoticon next to it, from which I understand that the quality of my posts and comments and other stuff is low. My question is why is that score low when I have 5 posts published with all of them having only upvotes (100%) except one, which has 3 votes (69 % rating). As far as I know I don't have downvoted comments. It seems to me that this score does not give an accurate depiction of the quality of my posts. Thank you,
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Stop Rewarding People Just for Posting

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I was astonished to find a couple of posts published in June that had earned rewards and no one had voted for them or commented on them. I was the first person to vote on the post. What this says to me is the content creator earned rewards just for creating the post. Granted, the rewards were small. Twenty cents in one case and .23 in the other. That isn't much. But someone could post 10 times a day, flag their own posts 18+, which almost ensures it will get fewer views, and ride out the...
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It's Time to Show Top 10 Quality Niches over Quantity in Narrative Stats.

BloggerKrunal ·
Narrative crossed 10,000 posts today. It's a great achievement for sure. As on Stats we can see the top 10 Niches by posts. Here, now I think everyone would like to see the Top 10 Niches by " Quality " Posts in Stats instead of based on Quantity of Posts. This will highlight the quality oriented stuff on site over quantity ones. In this way we can also have a little grip on preventing spamming posts. Niche Owners will also become active Moderators as they will prefer to see their Niches on...
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Automatically Block Spam Accounts Under 20 Rep When XX Posts Have Reached Low Quality Score

Garden Gnome Publications ·
On the Discover page, just now, I found 10 good posts among the last 50 posted. 40 out of 50 were trash spam posts! And all of them were from low-rep newly created accounts. In concert with @Sardart's suggestion in a recent @Colleen Ryer suggestion ( here ) to limit posts to 1 per day for accounts with 50 rep or below, 2 posts per day for accounts with 80 rep or below, and 3 posts per day for accounts with rep above 80, I offer the following suggestion on...
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Lets add the downvote reason field to Low Quality voting, too

Malkazoid ·
This may feel like a familiar suggestion: previously this field was requested in a suggestion, for AUP violations. Almost immediately in the comments of that older suggestion, people chimed in that this reason field would be very helpful for Low Quality downvotes also. The Team has since implemented the field for AUP downvotes only. In order for the Low Quality downvote reason field to remain in the ticket queue, this ticket is probably necessary explicitly for that functionality. There has...
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Re: Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Brian Lenz ·
Hi @Malkazoid , I can see where you're coming from here. I think this is a matter of standards vs. best practices. The Tribunal (and community!) really should only be rejecting niches based on the criteria set by the system: unique, no profanity, no misspellings, English, and complies with the TOS. I don't see imperfection (or lack of perfect consistency) as a standard that must be upheld. There is gray area and margin for error. Some niche descriptions are sub-optimal and may not follow...
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Re: Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Malkazoid ·
Thanks Brian - that does help me understand your process. You did leave out one of the rejection criteria that is available to voters: "The niche name/description is unclear/incorrect." This is grounds for rejection, and it describes the current issue very well. I'd like to make a recommendation. I agree whole-heartedly that rejecting the niche is not optimal. But I feel equally strongly that leaving it in its current state is undesirable. More so than rejecting the niche. After all, if...
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Re: Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Bryan ·
Not abiding by standards should be grounds for rejection for this reason... people with poorly written and/or unclear Niche descriptions MAY argue later that another Niche is violating their airspace. Hey, no fair. That's what I MEANT to say... It's a problem. Especially when the voting public is full of un-educated, or non-credentialed, voters (no offense intended).
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Re: Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Malkazoid ·
Exactly - and there is something inherently wrong with a niche going through a Tribunal appeal, diverting their attention from other things... and yet STILL coming out the other side flawed in such a blatant way. I really think the Tribunal needs to make these tweaks while they are at it. It is bad for Narrative for sloppy niches to remain, and it is a very bad look for the project to observe the sloppiness and do nothing about it.
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Re: Shopping vs online shopping - a Tribunal appeal question

Gord ·
Sounds like a good platform to campaign on for the next Tribunal election
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Malkazoid ·
Fantastic post, Ogochukwu. Welcome! You might be reassured to know several voices are pointing towards Medium as a good standard to hold ourselves to. As I understand it, there may still be some disagreement as to how that standard will be attained on Narrative. I think the Team puts a little too much faith in the wisdom of the crowd, and the reputation system they are crafting. Both have their merits, but if Narrative achieves superb quality this way, they would be the first to manage such...
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Ogochukwu Onyema ·
Thoughtful comment filled with Insight @Malkazoid This reminds me of a saying I love so much: You don't achieve goals by pushing power up. you gain more by pushing authority down. Just like you said, I believe that everyone has a role to play, maintaining the integrity of this platform is not something that can be achieved by the Narrative Team alone. Every Niche owner and Content creator have a role to play.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Gord ·
I don't think anyone is more vested in making the Narrative platform succeed than Niche owners and content creators Curious what "quality content" means to you, @Ogochukwu Onyema
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Holla ·
Really great article Ogochukwu! Would love to share it on twitter but that seems to be one of the things not possible yet.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Rosemary ·
You should be seeing a social share toolbar at the top of this page....or is that not what you're talking about? Watching this conversation has been exciting for me, seeing the level of commitment, passion, and insight that you guys show. Knowing that Narrative will be self-governed, it inspires confidence to know this is the foundation we're building from.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Holla ·
I am seeing the toolbar but giving me error Error Your request could not be completed at this time due to an unknown system error. For further assistance, please post to our support site . Reference ID: 15671858943628395[1307967146][-1371202990]28.b72.4bce16c-db027.ps002-2 Please click here to continue.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Brian Lenz ·
@Holla , thanks for reporting that. The share should still go through, but that error should not be popping up. We'll get it fixed!
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Holla ·
Error showing for twitter and also linkedin and facebook.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Brian Lenz ·
Yeah, you can just dismiss that error when you see it. The social share popup window will still appear.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Holla ·
ok right
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Ogochukwu Onyema ·
@Gord When I say "quality content" It must not be like a those research topics or projects in schools. Quality content to me is any form of content that uplifts the reader and makes the person enjoy every moment they spend on this platform.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Ogochukwu Onyema ·
Thanks for reading and spreading the word @Holla
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Ogochukwu Onyema ·
Thanks for reading and your kind words @Rosemary
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Re: Quora's 'Spaces'

Ted ·
Hi @Malkazoid - great thoughts here. I think that Quora is smart to introduce the "spaces" taxonomy for their content. I'm all for any content system that makes it easier to follow the content you are interested in, so kudos to them for introducing the feature.
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Re: Quora's 'Spaces'

Erik Blair ·
Thank you for sharing this.
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Re: Quora's 'Spaces'

Drixx Madison ·
Very insightful. Glad you're part of the community.
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Re: On Narrative: The Need To Go The Way Of Medium

Jonmark Weber ·
@Holla , You will be happy to know that the social share tools have been fixed. You should no longer be getting any errors when loading any of those tools now. Thank you for letting us know, and have a wonderful weekend!
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Drixx Madison ·
You raise excellent points and concerns. I fully agree with you about standards because it's easy to default to a journalistic or academic research standard of what excellent writing is, even though most people don't communicate that way. I also find myself up-voting topics I use to deem repetitive because the content posted and vibes of each niches may feel completely different. What if only 1 TV station was allowed to report thunder storms. Haha What if the 2nd duplicate niche owner is...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Malkazoid ·
I loved this rant Emily! And I agree with most of it. I've been around since before the Alpha too, and I agree the patterns in participation and voting since the early days have been fascinating! I'm loving, in particular, that the latest wave of niche writing has been really good (and I attribute that in part to the strictness of our voting: when standards are too lax, people just don't try as hard). Subjectivity: yes, it is inevitable, and perfectly acceptable to have our own standards for...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

David Dreezer ·
@Emily Barnett This post got everything off of my chest that has been growing there. This is why I used the description I did about Molly's post. It is mean to help people that want to learn to write more attractive Niches. It is not the 10 Commandments of Niches. You get it. Thank you! Your thoughts over Biscuits are exactly where I am with the failed Tool Niche. I'm heartbroken for the guy that suggested it. Look, spelling does count. Descriptions do count. If I'm writing Red Sox content...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Malkazoid ·
I have empathy for anyone who sees a niche they suggested being rejected, but my heart doesn't break for them. In the scheme of things, it just isn't a big deal. We improve by failing, and by learning not to fail in the same way the next time. In a funny way, the way the Tool niche failed is the same way the Narrative team are failing over this very issue, so there is a strange kind of logic in your empathy for the suggester. The team is currently assuming it has communicated how the...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

David Dreezer ·
The Tribunal's job isn't to fix problems or edit typos. They Tribunal's job is to review those changes. And they do. They adjudicate. That's what they do. People submit Niches with typo fixes almost every day. It's the Community's job to do QA, not the Tribunal. And not the company. And the Community is doing that. HOW that QA is done, is the discussion here, right?
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Malkazoid ·
Narrative Company has decided the Tribunal should not fix errors, but that doesn’t mean we can’t question the efficiency of that decision. Until someone clarifies a way to be certain the problems get fixed, if the Tribunal is going to adjudicate in such a way that the problems persist (approving niches with problems) then we haven’t solved anything. If the solution is for niches to bounce back and forth between the community, suggester and Tribunal multiple times - shouldn’t it be for more...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

David Dreezer ·
But that's entirely incorrect. If the Tribunal were to approve a Niche with a typo AND the owner doesn't correct it then it might gain little or no content, fail, and ultimately dies due to poor reputation. You don't look at it, I don't look at it, and and it then goes away. It's incumbent upon the Niche owner to get it right. If they fix the issue then it has a better chance of success, if they don't then the Community ignores it and it fails. The Community will have spoken by the Niche's...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Malkazoid ·
It is not incorrect. Lets walk through it. As I've previously mentioned, a niche holds a space that cannot be duplicated (uniqueness). So a niche we approve, but that fails to gain traction because of its name or category doesn't just die due to poor reputation: it prevents what could be a successful niche from existing. Can we agree that that is worth being concerned about? Second, following your hypothetical that a niche gains traction WITH a typo - you ask who cares. You should care. A...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Emily Barnett ·
Glad you like my rant @Malkazoid after an intense season of work, it feels good to be back in the Narrativerse!! Ha..I hope I was missed a little. Boy this is a good topic because I really can get behind both @David Dreezer and some of your points too Malkazoid. I think what that says is that the answers are very close and we just need as staff and community to try and stay away from the fringes. Basically I agree with everything David said with one exception. As it stands the idea that the...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Christina Gleason ·
Apparently I'm late to this discussion. I think it's fairly obvious that I agree most with Malkazoid's perspective, though my voting is probably viewed as "harsher." I am autistic, so I do have my own standards based on my interpretation of the rules and suggestions we've been given about new niches because that is how things make sense to me. If I'm the only person who votes to reject a niche, I'm okay with that, because I have generally commented with my reasoning, which I hope will be...
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Re: How do you standardize clarity?

Malkazoid ·
Emily, it is great to have you back! Regarding your opinion that I am being cavalier, I respect your opinion, but I think you are wrong. As I've said explicitly in this thread, I have empathy for anyone who has their niche suggestion rejected. Rejection of any kind is not most people's idea of fun. But we have to keep this in perspective. A healthy response to rejection is to try again. As my many comments on niche approval pages will attest, I tend to take the time to encourage people...
 
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