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I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Michael ·
According to the updated Narrative Alpha, the roadmap suggests that those that will not hand over their identity to this blogging platform, will not only be penalized 20%, but they will be unable to access "adult" content. This is laughable. Will the developers please clarify for everyone what is meant by "adult." Who gets to decide what is "adult"? Is my Niche, Pakistan, adult content? Is my Niche, Canadian Politics, adult material? Is saying the word 'fuck' adult material? Is a picture of...
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Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Malkazoid ·
A question for the community. @MOLLY O suggested we downvote their content and comments as low quality if they are trolling posts. I'm wondering if AUP violation is a possibility too? After all, the troll is violating the AUP (or should be seen as such) by using a dummy account to cause disruptions and malign the network. Thoughts?
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Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Christina Gleason ·
I wrote up a whole big post about scripted posting , and I tried to report all of the posts that currently violate the AUP in a single niche, but I ran into the daily voting cap. If you don't see an email address in a post in Independent music that I reported for violating the AUP, it's because it the post explicitly stated that it had been generated by a script. (See attached screenshot.) There's always the possibility that my post warned the offenders to go edit their posts to remove the...
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Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

Christina Gleason ·
It was my understanding that content that violates the AUP is removed from the site once the Team has established that it IS a violation. However, recently penalized spammers (they posted just hours ago, but they are now conduct negative, so that penalty was applied in the interim) still have their spam showing up in the Discover feed. This can't be working as intended, can it? Because the optics are terrible for site visitors, and frustrating for existing users whose legitimate content...
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AUP violations

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Make it clear in the AUP that violating another site's licensing agreement or terms of service is an AUP violation on Narrative. For instance, using a Shutterstock image without giving attribution implies the poster created that image, which is a violation of the Shutterstock licensing agreement . I'd also like to see standalone embeds (images, videos, music files, etc.), with or without proper attribution, be added as an AUP violation unless they were created by the poster and uploaded to...
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Vico Biscotti ·
@Malkazoid , I was wondering the same. I sometimes report with low quality, sometimes as a violation even if they're not exactly a violation, but SHOULD clearly be, since cheating by multiaccounts is commonly considered negative conduct (not always easy to detect them with certainty, but AUP does not even mention explicitly).
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Slaz ·
I downvoted them as Low Quality, but did choose AUP violation for a few comments when they were insults or personal attacks.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

David Dreezer ·
I think it's a bad idea to blanket report anything you deem as a troll to the Tribunal as an AUP violation. As an absolute minimum it simply adds that much more load to what will be the Tribunal. Mark it as low quality, and then just do not engage. Don't feel the troll's ego and rep by adding comments and replies. Stop rewarding the Trolls, just downvote for low quality, let it submerge, and move on.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Vico Biscotti ·
Let's remember that those are not just trolls. It's an individual, acting with a scheme, that is polluting conversations and approvals/bids of niches. Also, new users don't know about this and WILL give him attention.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Colleen Ryer ·
@Vico Biscotti makes a good point, people are unwittingly engaging -they don't know that some of the comments, posts, bids, etc are coming from troll accounts. New users are at a disadvantage unless the word gets to them. And after reading the AUP, even if the comments don't violate it, one person using multiple accounts to appear as several is impersonation - one reason to ban, at least.
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Malkazoid ·
Hi Michael You feel strongly about this, and you have done a good job of conveying that. From what I have read so far, Narrative isn't interested in retaining the KYC information: they want as many accounts as possible to belong to real people. So they need to incentivise people to prove they are real. That can be accomplished by receiving KYC info, switching on a single bit associated to your profile, that signifies you have completed KYC, and then erasing all KYC data. This could also...
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Michael ·
Thank you, @Malkazoid . Let me think about this for a few days. I'll write a Medium article and share it with the wider Narrative community outside of this platform in a week or so. I'll try to touch on your rebuttals. Cheers.
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Slaz ·
I don't know what I'll do in regard to KYC at this point. I'm usually pretty careful with my personal data online. I even prefer using web shops that allow you to checkout without creating an account. So I guess I'd prefer not to do KYC for Narrative, but might consider an exception if the handling and processing of data is explained thoroughly beforehand. And although I'm not interested in 'adult' content in the broader meaning, I don't really understand why an unverified 18+ user wouldn't...
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Melanie Mathos ·
Hi Michael, Thanks for sharing your feedback and inviting us to weigh in… Narrative is an intricate system that, by design, will address many of the issues plaguing Big Social and other projects today (bots, content manipulation, poor quality content, child protection issues, etc.) For it to “work,” the community must be engaged, and the right mechanisms and incentives must be built in. One of those mechanisms will be the optional KYC process. Those members who opt (read: optional) to go...
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

Gord ·
Sounds good to me. Can't wait to run this grand experiment through its paces!
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Re: I certainly will not give Narrative my identity to blog, nor should you. Please clarify 'adult' material.

MichelleG ·
You know, there is another NEO project, Bridge Protocol, which I believe is aiming to provide just this type of data protecting while doing KYC stuff. That might be worth looking at. Full disclosure, I do own a teeny tiny small amount of that token. Less than $100 worth for sure.
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

David Dreezer ·
I'm sorry, I am confused. Anything that staff has flagged for removal as an AUP violation is indeed removed. But I think that you're saying something that staff marked to remove didn't get removed? Can you give me a link to a content piece that we've marked for removal but hasn't actually been removed? To be clear, just because someone reported a piece of content as an AUP doesn't mean it will be removed. In some cases we can't prove it. In some cases we just haven't worked our way to it...
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

David Dreezer ·
By the way, site visitors never see low quality content. It's not presented to them.
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

Christina Gleason ·
It was some of the same "watch free online" spam we got slammed with over the weekend. Maybe you just hadn't gotten to the posts I saw in the AUP queue yet, but had removed earlier-reported violations that made the posters conduct negative. About visitors not seeing low quality content - does that mean anything below a 25% rating, or only stuff with enough downvotes on it to give it the red symbol? Because there will never be enough of us downvoting any given spam post to turn it red because...
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

David Dreezer ·
There were a number of cases where for expedience a single post that a spammer made was removed for AUP violation to stop that spammer while they were spamming, and prevent them from posting more. We then went back later on and cleaned up the rest of their posts after the fact. It's entirely possible that some were missed when we circled back, even though we have tried to be pretty thorough. There have been a number of them so I'd not be surprised if indeed some were missed. You've got it...
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

Christina Gleason ·
This is very good to know. Thank you for keeping me "posted." 😊
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Re: Content already flagged as AUP violations (and user is already conduct negative for it) still showing up feed

Heidi Hecht ·
I just reported six of these "watch episodes free" posts. My question/concern is, at which point should a user be IP blocked? (My personal feeling is, the sooner the better.)
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Vico Biscotti ·
In the meanwhile, the bazillion posts got 10x bazillion upvotes and good comments. Of course NOT because the community appreciates...
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Christina Gleason ·
And of course, one member has already made a libelous rant. I've reported him.
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Downward Spiral Mantra ·
Oh Shame on you using the bullying card when it clearly explicit in the post that your disability has nothing to do with the fixation that you are on a crusade trying to build a downvote brigade as you clearly are promoting on our posts on things you do not seem to like using the Violation rules crap....you are pretty intelligent as to know that your highlighted thing is so biased as your judgment as other peoples posts....and i explained so clear, i myself have a disabilty and that is why...
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Downward Spiral Mantra ·
And this is how you are pointing people toward it like a proper Star of David ' Don't report everything in there......wow....you clearly are telling adult people to take their own decisions....good for you....if this is not a mafia like behaviour tell me what is....We may have hen to start pointing peole towards your cow post : https://www.narrative.org/post/cows-in-the-woods to see the quality of posts in here ....and the rewards they get....I spent millions of hours on my music and to...
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Downward Spiral Mantra ·
Who are you to say what the community appreciates here...seriously are you the community alone...how the hell do you know what other people want to vote for....i guess you are one of the pet followers who downvote people for writing in Spanish, part of the biased downvote gang...shame on you all....
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Nuno Moreiras ·
Spirits are high, so I think this would be the perfect time to take a breath and a couple of steps back. No one denies that your efforts are legitimate @ ChristinaGleason and your intentions are to make Narrative the best platform it can be, so lets for a moment put aside the fact that you got someone banned from the platform for technicality and address the fact that you started a war with @Atom Collector using the pretext of low quality content. Considering your post about low quality...
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Colleen Ryer ·
No one is allowed to violate the AUP. And people downvoting for AUP violations aren't getting people banned. The people who are violating the AUP are getting themselves banned. If people don't like the rules they can take it up with the management.
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Re: Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

David Dreezer ·
This topic has run its course. We got the message, and will react as necessary.
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