Tagged With "Certification"

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Certification Fee

ericnovak ·
Hey guys, I was wondering if there was going to be an option to pay the certification fee in NRVE, since that's the token that this community is built on. Kinda' confused as to why it's being requested in USD. I'd love more thoughts on this subject
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Lack of certification...but I have rated posts pending publication?

Gaia Glee ·
While I have already had an illuminating conversation with Narrative staff regarding the certification of my account, one of my options for getting properly certified will likely not be possible until after April 2. (Bureaucracy is a headache, darlings.) Here's a conundrum: I own two erotica niches. All of my "pending" posts are age-rated. I will probably not be certified when Narrative launches. What happens? Do my posts go live, but I will be unable to see them, even when posted in the...
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Reputation Score

Garden Gnome Publications ·
I noticed that reputation scores have changed since implementing the certification feature. Interestingly, mine went up before I submitted my certification. I see that some others went down. The weight for behavior and quality have been changed. It was 40/40. Now it's 10/60. Why the change? Also, I'm curious if there is a way to see users ranked by reputation? If not, that might be an interesting thing to see on the stats page. Maybe a top 10, or something.
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Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Emily Barnett ·
Hi, I see that we can no longer nominate ourselves, unless we are paying for certification. I am not going to jump to the conclusion that this means you cannot be a moderator unless you certify, because we do still need the Nominate a moderator put in place. I will say this though. This is going to impact the ability to get the best moderators, and in some cases even activate your niche. If an owner does not comply with the certification, and they do not have a moderator yet, then they...
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Certification for Niche Moderators

Ted ·
There have been a few questions in the past week about why Narrative requires that Niche moderators be Certified. Let me walk through the thought process behind that requirement. There were two primary reasons, but I'll start with the biggest reason first: 1. Protecting Children Niche moderators will be able to screen all new content posted to their Niche prior to allowing the content to be published on the Niche. The idea is to allow new content to be sandboxed before it is seen. Now, keep...
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Paypal echeck issue with certification

Malkazoid ·
Hello Team My partner Leah wants to get certified. We put payment through on Paypal, but when we landed back on the Narrative site, we were greeted with a sad robot error. So we tried again. Same result. Looking at our transaction history in Paypal, we discovered that the payments had become echecks, because the card we have connected to our Paypal account was over its limit. My guess is Narrative's Paypal integration doesn't know how to deal with echeck payments because they are not...
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KYC, founders and Patrons. certification fee

Emily Barnett ·
Hi, lots to talk about today. But a question that came to my mind earlier, and was just reiterated by a fellow member, is why are the Founders and Patrons having to certify when we already did that to participate pre-ICO. our accounts have been set up in Alpha based on proving we are real people. Why should we have to do it again, and this time pay a fee? Did we suddenly become fake people?
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Boosting Certification/Reputation Points

Jayme Soulati ·
Good Morning and Good Day to this amazing and exciting platform! I'm so impressed with the boatload of content; congratulations to Narrative for its vision and the community for its prolific writings. Suggestion, and forgive me for wanting faster information without searching, can we get a link on the 'Congrats You're Certified' page or in the menu for my profile (?) on "How to Boost Reputation." As soon as I got certified and saw my score, I began searching for how to boost it. Thank you!
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Major Release and Public Launch Date Set!

MOLLY O ·
Today’s release includes the rollout of Certification, onboarding enhancements, a major Reputation formula update, and a Niche slot limit increase. We are also announcing that April 2 is our official Public Beta launch. You can check out the countdown clock on https://www.narrative.org . We will have one more major release in March ahead of the official public launch, at which point pre-published content will go live. Although the content will be public during this “community soft launch”...
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Change in Niche Moderator Certification Policy

Ted ·
There has been a lot of community discussion about whether certification should be required for Niche moderators. I went over our reasons for requiring it here: https://community.narrative.or...for-niche-moderators We've had further discussions here at Narrative HQ about the policy and have decided to reverse things by no longer requiring certification for Niche moderators. The arguments for requiring certification are still valid, but ultimately we decided that the cons outweighed the pros,...
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Can't Log into my Narrative account

Osita ·
Narrative Team, Kindly help me check if there is any form of restriction on my account. I have not been able to log into Narrative since today; in fact after my certification. Looking forward to expedited resolution of this issue. Regards, Osita IBEKWE @Osita.
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Reduce Voting Weight of Certification to 10% as per whitepaper

freedom ·
This proposal is to reduce the current impact of certification to 10 from 30. The highest rep achievable without certification is 39, and the voting weight that goes with it is 0.04. That means 5 members with the highest possible rep would outweigh 15 members with the highest possible rep without certification. Per @deniswallez With $15 and a positive conduct, you already have a reputation of 40 (hence above my 33), and therefore more voting power than me, even if you never took the time to...
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decrease the percentage of reputation allocated to certification

Gosia Rokicka ·
This is going to be an unpopular subject, I suspect (with the only Narrator who would probably upvote it not present on the community forum as it seems...) - but anyway, this is what I think. It seems that it is not true that reputation can never be bought, can only be earned. As far as I can see it, you can buy A THIRD of it for 15 USD. A third makes a lot of difference and how is it fair that users get it merely for proving they're unique human beings, without any consideration for the...
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Certification

winkandwoo ·
Dear Sir or Madam I have just had my certification request rejected on the grounds that i sent the wrong document. I sent you my birth certificate which is a supported document on your list in the uk . Unfortunately i had to use the passport hub to send it because you do not have provision for a birth certificate to be submitted. I therefore request that you review my submission again under these circumstances. Kind regards Clive Fuller (winkandwoo)
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Certification Processing Issue

Ted ·
We're experiencing an issue caused by our Certification processing vendor, Onfido, that is preventing the submission of certification documents. Unfortunately, the fix for this may not be in place for about a week. If you have paid for Certification and cannot submit your information, don't worry! As soon as we fix the issue, you will be able to do so. We'll post here when this issue is resolved. Thanks for your patience in the meantime!
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Is it time to certify membership?

J Bandel ·
It seems that the Narrative community is in deep trouble with illegal spam posts and something drastic needs to be done before it is too late. I think it is time to consider the simple step of making everyone certify who they are! This will put an absolute stop to the problems in my opinion. I think that eventually the membership will need certification anyway and now is the best time to put this in place before the damage is irreparable. The certification process is not that difficult and I...
Question

Certification

dexpartacus ·
Hello! I've opened an account with Scorum-Italia Witness, I want to know if I can certificate this account with same credentials of my private one. Thanks!
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Certificate payment issue

Mehedi Hasan ·
Our country in Bangladesh doesn't support paypal. so how can i get certificate?? Have any second option or way?
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Re: Certification Fee

Emily Barnett ·
Agreed. This would give people coming from countries like Venezuela a chance to increase there reputation with their actual earnings, where as coming up with USD, for this type of thing, nearly impossible.
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Re: Certification Fee

Ted ·
These fees do not go to Narrative Rewards. Rather, they cover our own costs for processing the applications. Since nearly all of our associated costs require USD, it's actually more expensive/time-consuming for us to collect NRVE and then convert to USD. That said, there may be an option to pay in NRVE in the future, and certainly we are all for increasing usage of NRVE in general. It's just more expeditious at this point to keep it simple by supporting credit card, paypal, and Venmo.
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Re: Certification Fee

Stever82 ·
As a user that has purchased 2 niches I don’t like this roll out at all. The email was not clear this would cost money. You are only giving us one way to pay and it is not a user friendly way for many of us. The whole we are only charging you to cover their fee seems fake when you have a it cost 10 now and 15 later. Why does their fee go up later? 30% is a large part to connect it a fee. Seems like you are buying rep. Also forcing us to do this to be a moderator puts me at a spot that if no...
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Re: Certification Fee

Ted ·
We've made it clear in our spec from day one that there would be a fee associated with certification. In terms of the fee... it is simply discounted until we launch the beta, when the normal rate of $15 will apply. To be clear, certification is definitely optional. You are not obligated to become certified at all. There are certainly perks associated with becoming certified, but IMO that makes sense. With many networks filled with bots, we want Narrative to reflect quality. Certification at...
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Re: Certification Fee

Malkazoid ·
So I want to try to tease apart two things here. On the one hand, we have the mechanics of certifying people: from the perspective of the Narrative Team, there is the practical requirement to verify that as many people as possible are real people, and there is a cost attached to doing so. I don't find it shocking that the cost has to be passed on to us, although I do think @Stever82 has a point about about the $10 - $15 jump. (Unless the true cost of the process is $15, and the Narrative...
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Re: Certification Fee

Slaz ·
I think the process should at least state what Narratives exact costs are for each certification request, to ensure people that all they’re paying for is to cover these costs, and nothing more. Transparency is a defining factor in Narratives concept, and if people suspect money is being made by the certification process, it might cause bad taste. I don’t really care about that myself, but I expect at least some users to mind post-beta.
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Re: Certification Fee

Malkazoid ·
That was exactly my thinking too.
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Re: Certification Fee

Ted ·
The fee reflects all of the costs associated with processing these certifications- including third party processor fees (what Onfido charges us to perform the checks), our own time in manually reviewing each submission (yes, a real human on our team is also performing a check each time), development and maintenance of our back-end systems for the certification process, and development and maintenance of the payment systems (including accounting, handling of chargebacks, etc.) used for the...
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Re: Certification Fee

Emily Barnett ·
I made this point in another post today. Transparency and being on your toes for p.r. messaging is so important for the Narrative team to take. I believe this is an area that the team should be concerning themselves with more. @Ted stating that the fees are clearly laid out in the specifications after people have had a reaction, isn't really a great Public Relations strategy. Not everybody reads the specs, and especially not with a fine tooth comb. The messaging needs to be repetitive, and...
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Re: Certification Fee

ericnovak ·
Yeah, I mean, I'm not super concerned about paying the fee– I'd love to be verified and support the company. I didn't mean to open a can of worms, but the option to pay with NRVE seems like a no-brainer, especially since that's a goal that people can work up to with their own earnings.
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Re: Certification Fee

JC ·
To raise the funds in the ICo if they accepted crypto. For the madness of paying to be certified, No! They do not want crypto. Very expensive and slow! OMG. Hahaha how to expect a dopcion of the crypts, if a company that raised its funds from an ICO, says that for them it is more expensive and difficult to accept their own token and then change it to dollars.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Gord ·
I am 100% behind this.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

James ·
Trying to keep children off of the front line of content review. Welp, I'm not allowed to do the only thing I want to do on this platform. You're excluding a demographic that consist of some of the most active online moderators because of people posting pornographic content to the wrong place. A problem that exists on virtually every site ever. If this was a serious problem, there would be laws requiring moderators be 18+, there would be rules on every platform. Not sure if you knew, but the...
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Banter ·
Hi @James , I understand where you are coming from. It's a little bit like a drinking age of 21 when you can go to war and die at 18... Here is a potential compromise for the @Narrative team to consider: Certification should still be required for moderation positions to verify age, as well as the 2nd point about 'fake accounts' @Ted brought up. However, I would alter the age restriction and set it to something lower like 15 or 16. I would also create a little bit of a contract that the user...
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Yes, there should be serious repercussions for breaking this policy. If we're going to charge for certifications and require moderators to be certified, the negative consequences for breaking the rules should be severe enough that it causes users to think twice.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Gord ·
@James I get your disappointment, but the issue goes well beyond nudy pics. This is about preventing minors from being subjected to truly deplorable, psychopathic content... the sort of thing that front-line mods of Twitter and Facebook are suffering PTSD from . As a father, I'm pleased to know that Narrative is taking steps to mitigate this kind of damage to our youth, even if governments haven't (yet) addressed the issue. @Banter and @Garden Gnome Publications I agree there should be...
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

James ·
As you are a parent, I do understand your response and, as a teenager, I would class it as a stereotypical parental response when they think of the worst case scenario like they always do. I don't mean to be rude, but Twitter and Facebook are two of the largest social platforms in the world, Narrative is yet to launch out of alpha and I guarantee you that Narrative shall not have anywhere near as many members as those two giants that dominate the industry, for the first few years at a...
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Banter ·
Hi @Gord , I think you are right about the anonymous account problem. I had originally thought that new users would be in a bit of a probationary period until their reputation reached a certain level. While that would be a barrier to posting content right out of the gate...it would certainly help prevent a 'Create anon account, post spam / horrible stuff, rinse, repeat'.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Colleen Ryer ·
A little confused, since I thought Ted announced that the age rating feature was shelved for the time being, unless inappropriate content became an issue - I don't see why a certified member who is under 18 should be dinged if he or she applies to moderate ... perhaps this might better be left up to the niche owner?
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Gord ·
This would be optimal. I like the way some subReddits handle content publishing where you might start off only being able to comment via text and only after a certain rep is achieved, can you post images/videos/links. Maybe this already exists?
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Banter ·
Hey @Colleen Ryer , Actually, what was shelved was the age restrictions for Niches themselves....think of Niches as the buckets...the buckets don't have a rating anymore, but the content within them will.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Banter ·
I think it's a great idea @Gord . I would even say you should create a new suggestion topic specifically for that. It would be amazing if Niche owners had the ability to specify a minimum reputation level to even submit content to their Niche, or some other factors, like how long has the account been around for, etc.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Colleen Ryer ·
Ah, that explains the confusion. Thanks @Banter! And ditto @Gord - would be a great suggestion.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Garden Gnome Publications ·
That's a stellar suggestion.
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Re: Lack of certification...but I have rated posts pending publication?

Brian Lenz ·
Hi @Gaia Glee , you can always see your own posts that you've authored (even if you've marked them as age restricted), so that won't be an issue. Your posts will go live automatically. In terms of moderation, niche owners will be able to moderate their niches without Certification in the interim period until elected moderators are established. If you, as the niche owner, want to be nominated/elected in your moderator election, you will need to get Certified in order to do so.
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Re: Lack of certification...but I have rated posts pending publication?

Gaia Glee ·
Thank you for clarifying, @Brian Lenz . I do hope to get through the red tape earlier than I expect to, but I do know better than to be too optimistic. I thank you for the explanation that lack of certification will not interfere with our responsibilities as niche owners in the early launch period.
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Re: Lack of certification...but I have rated posts pending publication?

Emily Barnett ·
You can also put out a call for certified moderators to apply. It won't help for the immediate, but may give yourself options if it takes longer.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Emily Barnett ·
thank you @Banter for providing yet another reason how taking away our simple rep has become a problem.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Ted ·
Simple Rep is not gone... it is now Conduct.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Ted ·
And there will be consequences... so no issue there.
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Emily Barnett ·
@James I feel quite empathetically for you. Sadly this is an issue that was discussed ad nauseam in the early days. There were many people, myself included that actually argued against allowing nude pics on the platform, predicting so many potential problems. Many of which we are starting to see, even though these are not the ones anticipated. Management decided to go for it anyway, despite all the potential issues, and unpleased people. I think it sucks that your right to be a moderator has...
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Re: Certification for Niche Moderators

Emily Barnett ·
@ted you need both.
 
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