Tagged With "AUP"

Question

What does Narrative consider "pornographic?"

Gaia Glee ·
Hello darlings, As we approach the launch date, I am becoming increasingly aware of grey areas in the TOS. I own and have paid for two erotica niches. Because the very definition of erotica involves textual descriptions of explicit sexual acts, and because multiple erotica categories have been approved and have owners, I can only assume that it's only pornographic imagery that is disallowed. As I am also the winning bidder of the currently-named "GirlsGoneBitcoin" which will be renamed and...
Suggestion

Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Christina Gleason ·
Perhaps posts could be "archived" instead of "deleted" - a sort of Post Purgatory for things people want to delete but are still visible to @Narrative Network Team. This would prevent members from posting problematic content (both posts AND comments) and deleting it to avoid negative consequences. I am not a programmer, so I can only explain it in the terms of what things would look like to moderators and admin. When a member hits "delete post" or "delete comment," it does not instantly...
Question

Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Malkazoid ·
A question for the community. @MOLLY O suggested we downvote their content and comments as low quality if they are trolling posts. I'm wondering if AUP violation is a possibility too? After all, the troll is violating the AUP (or should be seen as such) by using a dummy account to cause disruptions and malign the network. Thoughts?
Issue

Bad link in the AUP

Vico Biscotti ·
The link to TOS, in AUP, is broken.
Suggestion

Content removed for AUP violation does not affect Quality Analysis

Vico Biscotti ·
Yesterday, a member had 7 articles removed for AUP violation. He had a penalty for the conduct, but his quality analysis is still a whopping 98. Apart from the fact that I still don't understand how having his last 10 articles with a rating below 80% gives him a quality analysis better than most other members (already discussed here: https://community.narrative.or...xcessively-rewarding ) - but that's another story - I think that having articles removed for AUP violation should affect...
Issue

Copyright Conflicts on Narrative

BloggerKrunal ·
Two days ago on 21st May, I got one post on my Leadership Niche from Doru Tarita (Teddy). In the post footer he mentioned the source of surfersam site but it was not added in canonical link. So I asked about his user details on that site and he responded this. "Thank you for your comment. I wish I can write better English, but my English is not good. I am happy when I can use free articles from surfersam. I can find there, what I want to express by myself. They are a source of inspiration...
Issue

Libel

Christina Gleason ·
User Dave Navarro decided that he'd rant about my proper use of the downvote to report AUP violations. Disagree with me all you want, but it does change the AUP. But then he made it personal, bullying me and attacking my disability status, calling me a "crazed individual" - which is an ableist slur concerning my mental health status - and equated me to Hitler killing the Jews, which is libelous. It's the middle of the night here on the East Coast, but I trust this will be dealt with swiftly.
Conversation

Re: The bazillion posts I've downvoted for AUP violations

Christina Gleason ·
I wrote up a whole big post about scripted posting , and I tried to report all of the posts that currently violate the AUP in a single niche, but I ran into the daily voting cap. If you don't see an email address in a post in Independent music that I reported for violating the AUP, it's because it the post explicitly stated that it had been generated by a script. (See attached screenshot.) There's always the possibility that my post warned the offenders to go edit their posts to remove the...
Suggestion

Change the AUP to read ...

Garden Gnome Publications ·
No usage of scripts or script-generated content to create or contribute to posts. This is necessary due to the following explanation in the comments of this post . The AUP currently reads: "No usage of bots to post content, manipulate votes, and/or ratings. Prove that self governance works without game playing!" Technically, what Atom Collector Records is doing, and encouraging its members to do, is not bot posting. However, it is game-rigging as they are using a pre-generated script to...
Suggestion

Make it an AUP violation to ask for/offer upvotes like reddit does.

Christina Gleason ·
The AUP already addresses that attempts at vote manipulation as a community governance issue. On reddit, every time you click the "start a new post" button, it states clearly before the input box, "Beginning your title with "vote up if" is violation of intergalactic law." Furthermore, reddit also has a page dedicated to what defines prohibited vote manipulation , which includes: Using multiple accounts, voting services, or any other software to increase or decrease vote scores. Asking people...
Suggestion

Require image attribution with image insertion

Malkazoid ·
Hello, There has been a fair bit of buzz in the community about how mandatory image attribution could make it much simpler for people to know how they feel about whether a post is low quality, or an AUP violation. I've tried to think of reasons why we shouldn't do this, and I can't really come up with any. While inserting an image, there's only two possibilities: either the image is yours, or it isn't. Requiring this to be specified would make life on Narrative clearer for everyone. This can...
Question

AUP Clarification: Post that exist solely to include an affiliate link break the rule on spamming, correct?

Christina Gleason ·
There is at least one user who has been posting 10 posts in rapid succession each day containing no meaningful content except for their affiliate link. When I was a Google Quality Rater, the "no meaningful content" part was enough to classify it as spam. The AUP definition of spam only mentions posting the same information over and over, but I doubt that you subscribe to that narrow a definition of spam. Not naming names, but in general, should we consider such posts (where they basically...
Conversation

Downvoting Abuse

hgn66 ·
So I just keep it short because someone asked. And I know it's been issued before. I just sent my last article; https://www.narrative.org/post/there-will-be-blood And it received immediate downvotes in less than 3 mins! and it's just 7 people. I think there is an abuse going on the platform. And somehow some automation, like a bot. If you want to know more and track those 7 downvote you can check this post, which my post refered to it; https://www.narrative.org/post...ehold-the-screenshot...
Announcement

Expanding the scope of appeals to include members

Ted ·
Currently, the appeal system in Narrative is limited to content, comments, and niches. We're working on some improvements, however, to support reporting a member for chronic plagiarism, profile AUP violations, and potentially more in the future. Member-focused appeals will be reviewed and decided by the Tribunal. About Plagiarism Appeals We want to make sure that claims of plagiarism are not frivolous and that they are based on provable, chronic behavior. Anyone who submits an appeal against...
Suggestion

Make Profanity in Post Titles an AUP Violation

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Otherwise, the site will be overrun by posts like this . You've got this policy for niche titles, publication titles, and personal profiles. Why not be consistent?
Suggestion

AUP violations

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Make it clear in the AUP that violating another site's licensing agreement or terms of service is an AUP violation on Narrative. For instance, using a Shutterstock image without giving attribution implies the poster created that image, which is a violation of the Shutterstock licensing agreement . I'd also like to see standalone embeds (images, videos, music files, etc.), with or without proper attribution, be added as an AUP violation unless they were created by the poster and uploaded to...
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Malkazoid ·
I think this is great! Tried and proven on another veteran platform.
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Ted ·
Just to clarify one point, Narrative staff should never have a role in any content reviews (once the initial Tribunal elections are held), unless of course a staff member is actually elected to the Tribunal (which would be allowed). Just to want to make it clear that ideally Narrative staff in general will have no role in content management.
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Ted ·
The idea itself has merit, I think, and certainly worth more consideration here, though I'd also like to preserve the ability for a person to delete their content outright (instantly) because ultimately Narrative should be providing you autonomy over your content. This policy, in essence, assumes bad intentions. But sometimes you post things you regret that have nothing to do with AUP violations or offending anyone. Perhaps this not-so-instant deletion depends on the person's reputation. If...
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Malkazoid ·
I may be misunderstanding @Christina Gleason , @Ted - but I think her suggestion includes immediate removal of the content from public view... so users who posted something they regret would be able to immediately find relief. What is great, I think, about this proposal is that people who commented on the post would still have access to their comments. From a legal perspective, I think quite a few jurisdictions might actually impose the requirement that online public messages be kept in some...
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Christina Gleason ·
You understood what I said correctly. I have personally, in fact, deleted a post I'd published and had comments on that I later deleted because I became concerned that the anonymous friend whose situation I had written about might have his legal options compromised if someone close to the issue decided to weaponize the post against him. This friend HAD asked me to write the post, but there were just too many nuances that couldn't be properly expressed in an editorial format. I manually...
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Vico Biscotti ·
I understand @Ted concerns about ownership of content. But I also think the suggestion from @Christina Gleason may be a good compromise. Another option is what I suggested here: https://community.narrative.or...ttachments-to-appeal . In the case of official issues, I think it's acceptable that the content remains public as evidence (until the account is there, of course), if the TOS is clear on that. cc: @Malkazoid , @Garden Gnome Publications
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Here's a quandary. If we all have ownership of our content, that includes comments on a post created by another. If that other deletes their post, where do the comments go? If I own the comment content, then no one else should have the right to delete the entire thread of comments along with their post even if they own the post content.
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Malkazoid ·
Yes - @Garden Gnome Publications - that's exactly why this thread was started. A post was deleted by the troll we're currently dealing with, and many community members had put a lot of time in providing a lot of good information relevant to his grievance. Those comments got deleted along with his post. That's why were here...
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Re: Problematic post deletion - potential solution

Bashar Abdullah ·
I think that on a community based on reputation primarily, content should be kept, at least if it was Reported. It can be deleted from frontend, but Tribunal community always can access it from backend. Not sure if this has legal implications even if it's stated in the terms though. Thoughts?
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Vico Biscotti ·
@Malkazoid , I was wondering the same. I sometimes report with low quality, sometimes as a violation even if they're not exactly a violation, but SHOULD clearly be, since cheating by multiaccounts is commonly considered negative conduct (not always easy to detect them with certainty, but AUP does not even mention explicitly).
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Slaz ·
I downvoted them as Low Quality, but did choose AUP violation for a few comments when they were insults or personal attacks.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

David Dreezer ·
I think it's a bad idea to blanket report anything you deem as a troll to the Tribunal as an AUP violation. As an absolute minimum it simply adds that much more load to what will be the Tribunal. Mark it as low quality, and then just do not engage. Don't feel the troll's ego and rep by adding comments and replies. Stop rewarding the Trolls, just downvote for low quality, let it submerge, and move on.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Vico Biscotti ·
Let's remember that those are not just trolls. It's an individual, acting with a scheme, that is polluting conversations and approvals/bids of niches. Also, new users don't know about this and WILL give him attention.
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Re: Downvote comments by known trolls as AUP violations?

Colleen Ryer ·
@Vico Biscotti makes a good point, people are unwittingly engaging -they don't know that some of the comments, posts, bids, etc are coming from troll accounts. New users are at a disadvantage unless the word gets to them. And after reading the AUP, even if the comments don't violate it, one person using multiple accounts to appear as several is impersonation - one reason to ban, at least.
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Re: Bad link in the AUP

David Dreezer ·
Thank you. We will get it fixed.
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Re: Content removed for AUP violation does not affect Quality Analysis

Brian Lenz ·
Hi @Vico Biscotti ! Definitely a very astute observation We are aware of this and have plans to adjust the Quality Analysis formula in the future to more appropriately account for AUP violation removals. I don't currently have an ETA as to when that change might be coming, but it is on our radar! I'm going to change this topic over to a Suggestion to give other people the opportunity to vote on the idea. Thanks!
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Re: Content removed for AUP violation does not affect Quality Analysis

Vico Biscotti ·
Thanks, @Brian Lenz . Knowing that you're aware of the problem and that it's on the radar is already good news.
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Re: Content removed for AUP violation does not affect Quality Analysis

BloggerKrunal ·
That's what I observed too @Vico Biscotti Contents got removed but rep score is still the same. And again this might happen to our new active user too who is spamming our feed. https://community.narrative.or...ting-limit-for-a-day
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Colleen Ryer ·
Yup, if a bot isn't allowed to do it, a human shouldn't be either.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Downward Spiral Mantra ·
You are doing this by using referrals on your posts and 'encouraging them to drive traffic away from Narrative where they earn someone else's crypto' as you just mentioned on your posts... : https://www.narrative.org/post...ion-to-coinbase-earn .. https://www.narrative.org/post...-makes-me-more-money so basically you are doing the same that you criticize right....i havent checked the lnks to your books but am sure you have some leading to amazon right......or right? come on you have been...
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Colleen Ryer ·
@Garden Gnome Publications doesn't stand to gain from the outside links. He writes a real post, not a copy/paste script. Your comparison is invalid. @Downward Spiral Mantra
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Downward Spiral Mantra ·
He does exactly earn crytpo for referring with an outside link : https://www.coinbase.com/earn/stellar/invite/p29g10fc ( invite/p29g10fc ) being the referral and https://brave.com/njo265 (njo265) being the referral.... So yes he is gaining from the link as our songs are doing in external links....the only difference being is that we take hours and hours of our felling and self into creating something nice for the world and he is gaining BAT tokens for his own self....so you see the...
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

turtle ·
The whole reason for the post generator is to save time not to spam, we would post the same content if it were written by hand, we are musicians and our time is valuable and limited, we have so many hours in a day with which need to be spread out between making music to entertain people such as yourselves and self promoting our music on multiple platforms , not just this one, do you really take that into consideration, if we were to type out all these individual posts every day on each...
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Colleen Ryer ·
invalid
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Colleen Ryer ·
I wish I could use a post generator to save time. But I noticed it's against the AUP and its poor quality.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

turtle ·
sol_cycler , i agree , but it doesn't change the fact that it is limited, so easy to have an opinion on a life you have not lived , i know nothing of your life, maybe your time is limited too, i don't know, as you people don't know any of us and what we have to fit in to a day, do you really think i have time to be here now having this conversation, no, but i feel it needs to be made clear that the situation is misunderstood , like i said not all is black and white
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

TS2019 ·
You're posting auto-generated content which is against the ToS, seems pretty black and white.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

turtle ·
colleen , quality is subjective, i can see im talking to deaf ears here , good day to you all
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

David Dreezer ·
This has degenerated into a shouting match. We're not going to do that here. As with everything else on the platform, we're watching. We'll evaluate the suggestion and if necessary, we will make a change.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

David Dreezer ·
By request, I'll re-open this topic as long as it stays on topic and civil in manner.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Malkazoid ·
Thank you David - I think the thread is allowing folks to see where each party is coming from.
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

turtle ·
just one question, is it possible that all the people who down voted our posts could be so kind as to remove them now it has been resolved, i personally lost 6 points off my rep and would appreciate some of it back , thank you
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

Malkazoid ·
Hey Turtle, I think at the present time, it isn't possible to remove a vote, only to transform it into an upvote. Has this been resolved: what was the outcome?
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Re: Change the AUP to read ...

turtle ·
thank you malkazoid , that would work for me
 
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