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Analytical Data on your Engagement

freedom ·
Metric Data Posts reach (impressions) Engagement Metrics - Likes, Comments, Shares Connected Metrics - Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Linkedin A key feature would be to be able to sort impressions from other sites. Example direct searches from Narrative compared to External Searches from Google/Other Sources Narrative Metrics would be amazing LinkedIn Metrics Facebook Metrics Twitter Metrics
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Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Vico Biscotti ·
I get that length is not a direct measure for quality, and that most authors may feel uncomfortable in investing long content in a beta. However, short content is becoming especially rewarding. You can output a lot of articles and be rewarded for it. I see authors with not only short but also "borrowed" content easily reach a reputation of 99. This is certainly at the expenses of thoughtful and quality content.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Colleen Ryer ·
I find it very confusing that there is "popular" content and "quality" content. I sort of assumed that posts with a lot of comments but few votes is popular,(in a positive way or in a negative way) and posts with a lot of votes, whether there are comments or not, is "quality" - but I'm just guessing. A comment without a vote is often used to indicate that the commenter has an issue with the post - but sometimes the commenter just forgot to vote, so this makes things even iffier ...
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

BloggerKrunal ·
@David Dreezer I can't agree on this point. "If something gets few votes but a lot of comments it would seem to be quality to me." I added a link of a post which was criticized by users and we all put our inputs on it which definitely not should be confused with the quality for that post. https://www.narrative.org/post...and-could-be-at-risk As @Vico Biscotti said, comments can be critic or query (which I raised to Teddy in first place to know his authenticity). If any one comment on any...
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Garden Gnome Publications ·
Engagement is another measure of quality. That's why Facebook page metrics show page owners engagement stats as well as like stats. If you examine Facebook metrics, you'll often find there are posts that receive few likes but a lot of comments. And, especially in politics, you might expect a lot of comments from people who disagree with you but who do not upvote or downvote your post. That's a measure of quality, in my opinion, so I agree with @David Dreezer . We can't assume that people who...
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Network stats about readers

Vico Biscotti ·
An important network metric to know is the ratio between readers and publishers. While most Narrators are both, knowing that we (as a community) attract members who only read might mean that the platform is gaining a reputation as a content reference. As an example, I would track three numbers (in the HQ reports): Readers (no posts) Narrators (at least one post) Committed Narrators (at least 10 posts, or one owned niche)
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

David Dreezer ·
If you feel that the short posts are of low quality then you should downvote then for that reason. That fixes the visibility of the content and the reputation of the person posting it.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Vico Biscotti ·
Of course, I'm downvoting, still it doesn't seem to have an effect. I checked with a specific author (we recently mentioned in another issue, so maybe you know who...) and the average rating of his latest 5 articles is 68% , with a maximum of 80% . Two articles are not there because they were removed for copyright infringement (one from the author before being caught). Going back doesn't help (btw, found now two or three other infringements among them) and the average rating is still low.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

David Dreezer ·
Every one of his questions of the day posts have lots and lots of comments. I think that most of his posts have more than just a few comments. All of those comments will bouy his score until more and more people downvote his scraped posts. His score did not grow overnight, it is not going to go down overnight.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Vico Biscotti ·
@David Dreezer , I get that comments have a role, but I don't see how a thousand comments could raise quality unless they ALSO upvote (the average rating is still around 70%, comments or not). Also, I understand that reputation may take a while to adjust but I'm talking about the last 10 articles (with the exception of the two removed). And quality is still 98. With ten articles with an average certainly below 80%, I'd expect a quality a bit less than 98, independently of comments. I may be...
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

David Dreezer ·
You have an and in the formula that you are describing that might not be correct. I think that you're saying that 3 or 5 votes should trump 20 comments. I am not sure that I agree with you on that. Or that comments don't carry weight unless they are comments and votes. I don't think that should be true. If something gets few votes but a lot of comments it would seem to be quality to me.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Vico Biscotti ·
@David Dreezer , I'm not saying that a few downvotes should trump a lot of positive comments. But a lot of comments WITHOUT voting shouldn't either. A comment can also be a critic. A comment without an upvote can be an oversight, but also a critic. At least, it shouldn't be considered a contribution to the quality, because we can't know. High rating with a lot of comments is certainly a positive metric, imo, but low rating with a lot of comment isn't.
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Vico Biscotti ·
@Garden Gnome Publications , I'm talking about a rating of less than 80% in the last 10 articles, and quality still remaining at 98. Something is weird with that. Agree that engagement is part of quality, indeed, but it shouldn't overwrite rating that much, else we shouldn't call it quality, but popularity, like @Colleen Ryer says. And I'm not sure if I want popular content to prevail in my feed, not under "quality" label, at least. Members can forget to vote but like we can't assume that...
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Re: Short content seems to be excessively rewarding

Colleen Ryer ·
The words we use to discuss "worthwhile" content can all be interpreted several ways ... I sure wouldn't want be writing the algorithms ! Giving any content an edge in an unfair way might be the thing to be avoiding ... and of course we then have to define what does this, fair enough. Good marketing as @Vico Biscotti describes, is too much the leader on most platforms already. I personally don't want more of this here.
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Re: Analytical Data on your Engagement

Bashar Abdullah ·
Highly needed
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Re: Network stats about readers

Malkazoid ·
This could be good. I'd just add that we'd probably want to try to distinguish between Readers who signed up and have interacted with content, and new Narrators who have actually done nothing yet... In fact you could draw up a number of stats about Readers: charts showing how many people are making certain amounts of votes per week, how many people are making certain amounts of comments per week... how many have done nothing. All anonymous of course. Would give good insights.
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