Tagged With "Alpha"

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Bug in tribunal display for completed ICOs review

Malkazoid ·
Hello, The new alpha rocks! So this is the first little glitch I've seen: if you go to the tribunal page, then click to display the 'Completed' appeals, you'll see the ICOs appeal listed. The ICOs niche was rejected by the tribunal as a clear duplicate of the existing ICO niche. Yet the phrase: "Voting has ended. 0% of the Tribunal voted to reject the Niche." ... appears beneath this listing on the completed appeals page. It looks like it is just a logical error in the phrasing, and probably...
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Text Overlap Issue in Chrome

MichelleG ·
I'm running Chrome and there'a a little text overlap issue in the new Alpha. I'm sure you're probably already aware. Screenshot attached.
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Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

Emily Barnett ·
Thought I would separate these so they would not get convoluted. So my understanding is that we, as the Alpha group, will be publishing content as a pre-seeding prior to the April 2, public launching of the beta. This turns my attention to the Moderator Center and how is this going to be rolled out. 1. Will we be holding the moderator elections before hand, so that our Niches and content actually qualify to accrue rewards from our votes from the first publish day? 2. Will we be able to...
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Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Emily Barnett ·
Hi, I see that we can no longer nominate ourselves, unless we are paying for certification. I am not going to jump to the conclusion that this means you cannot be a moderator unless you certify, because we do still need the Nominate a moderator put in place. I will say this though. This is going to impact the ability to get the best moderators, and in some cases even activate your niche. If an owner does not comply with the certification, and they do not have a moderator yet, then they...
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Re: Text Overlap Issue in Chrome

David Dreezer ·
Michelle we just released an update which should correct this. Can you have a look please?
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Re: Text Overlap Issue in Chrome

MichelleG ·
It's better. Gap is just a couple pixels though. Inconsistent.
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Re: Text Overlap Issue in Chrome

David Dreezer ·
Ok, still some work to do on it. thank you.
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

David Dreezer ·
Hi Emily, Moderator elections will not be held until after the content goes live and people have had a chance to fully gain reputation. Right now the reputation element is not complete (does not have any content elements) so elections would not be able to be held. For the beta period the Niche owners will be the moderators. Once content is published and reputation fully established then Moderator nominations and then elections will be added. It has not yet been determined if the Owner...
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

Emily Barnett ·
Thank you @David Dreezer . So the first bits of content being posted, (just making double sure) will fully qualify for voting and rewards, even though we haven't had elections.
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

David Dreezer ·
Yes. Yes certainly. I mean how do you have an election in which reputation matters IF the reputation element that means the so very much and is dependent on content posting isn't there? And how would you gain that important reputation if the content that you are now creating doesn't matter? The reputations that you all see right now is just a small part of the whole and the content element will dd so much more. We're pre-seeding the content right now so that there's something to go live when...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

David Dreezer ·
Hi, I've answered inline so that the answers appear in context.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

James ·
To quote the Co-Founder and CTO: "We built Certification as a multi-purpose tool to accomplish a few goals: ... 2. Determine the user's age. The user's age is used to grant access to restricted/18+ content when the user is 18+ years old. ... For purposes of Moderator requirements, item #2 is the reason Certification is required. It's not at all about proving how good of a Moderator you might be..." It comes across that getting the best moderators may not be the most important thing,...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Emily Barnett ·
I am not sure how I feel about it. Honestly I go both ways on the topic.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Slaz ·
Same mixed feeling here. Not so much for the certification requirement but more so for users below 18 not being able to become moderators. If someone posts NSFW content in a niche where it isn't appropriate, any user browsing that niche could see it (unless niches get to approve tagged content first). An underage moderator with a lot of time may see and remove it quicker than an adult moderator who only gets to see and remove it after 5'o clock.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Emily Barnett ·
@Slaz yes my main concern of mixed feelings is the +18 for moderators. One question I wouldn't mind clarification on is @David Dreezer Does content get published instantly - then a moderator makes sure the content is copasetic. or Does it go into cue, until the moderator has a chance to review to make sure it is copasetic, THEN it gets posted after it has been cleared. I am not a fan of the idea that moderators MUST certify to become moderators. I just think this is adding too many barriers...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Malkazoid ·
Just chiming in on the part I think I can answer. Pretty sure content enters a queue, and only gets published once a moderator has reviewed it. I agree it isn't ideal that under 18 year olds will not be able to moderate. But I'm ok with certification for moderators being required. I don't think this will be a barrier for mass adoption. The platform will have a lot value beyond moderation, and those who want to moderate will generally accept there is a small hoop to jump through in order to...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Christina Gleason ·
I can't imagine content not getting published until a moderator approves it if we can't elect moderators until the Beta goes live. The site will go live, but there will be no content for several days while elections take place? That's ridiculous.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Gord ·
I believe the owners will moderate the contents of their Niches on Beta +1 until elections. Likely one of the reasons we can't push content to un-owned Niches.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Malkazoid ·
Yes, that is one of the reasons. The Team would have to develop functionality for a General mod pool, of folks who act as floating mods, and get sent content from unowned niches to either approve or reject. We gave them the idea for this functionality a long time ago, so they must have made the decision to not pursue it at this time, considering their lack of response to it and lack of pronouncement on whether unowned niches will ever be able to receive content.
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

Malkazoid ·
In all fairness, the Community highlighted long ago that we are missing an opportunity for content based reputation right here on these forums. The Community has been posting a large amount of content to these forums for a full year now, and it would not be too difficult to extract some rep data from them based on likes and engagement. Would it have been as good as what will eventually be developed for the actual platform? Probably not. Would it have been sufficient to make reputation...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

David Dreezer ·
@Christina Gleason and @Gord are correct. Niche owners will moderate until Moderation elections are able to be held. For the initial period of the beta, content will go live and if they deem it necessary owners/moderators will be remove a piece of content, though the mechanism for that might not be polished looking. It is during this period that moderation tools are being built. We can't hold back content from going live while those tools are being built as it is necessary to get the content...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Malkazoid ·
Well I don't want to be discouraging, but yes, it isn't ideal. And it is surprising. The roadmap merely mentions that the moderation centre would be up and running in November but of course it didn't include any moderation tools. Moderation tools weren't mentioned explicitly anywhere in the road map. I'm pretty sure that in this vacuum of information, most of us were thinking there would be enough in place at Beta launch for the owner/default moderator to screen content before it goes live.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Emily Barnett ·
@David Dreezer obviously you guys know, this needs to be a fast turn around to build the tools. You are right this isn't ideal. It is one thing to preemptively block a post from making money on a niche that it isn't properly associated with. It is another to remove it. Especially if it weirdly does start getting upvotes, and the owner has to now remove it. but i certainly understand the position the code team is in.
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Malkazoid ·
So do I - everyone knows what it feels like to have a deadline. But sometimes the best thing one can do is just push it back a bit. The Narrative team is lucky in that the deadline is self-imposed. There is no parent network breathing down their backs. The desire to release something half-baked is entirely self-inflicted. I say this with compassion: I've been there before, many times.
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

Emily Barnett ·
+1 @Malkazoid we had this massive debate already, begging the team to recognize our time and commitment on the platform that Narrative gave us to use. It is exhausting as a community member, and alpha tester to provide important feedback that could eliminate frustrations. OUR CONTENT has been posted, and posted and posted. we have used the word Narrative so often, i don't know how it could not have helped Narrative. Even in Alpha every comment and vote, serves to make the website active each...
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Re: Question One about Moderator Center: certification and self nominations

Gord ·
I, too, am weary about the content of some of those 'top' Niches and what will happen at beta. Maybe the tribunal will have some sort of veto power until things are running smoothly?
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Re: Question TWO: Moderator centre: When Elections?

MOLLY O ·
It looks like this question has been answered so I am going to change the status to "answered".
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Re: Bug in tribunal display for completed ICOs review

Ted ·
The Appeals area is definitely still a work in progress. We have some improvements already in the works for that area. Because only the Tribunal has to actively use that area, it is has been a lower priority. Agree though that the current language is quite convoluted.
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Re: Text Overlap Issue in Chrome

David Dreezer ·
Thanks Michelle, We will be releasing a new version shortly, in which that issues has been addressed. Thank you!
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