Changing Niche Name After Suggesting It

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Changing Niche Name After Suggesting It

Service: Narrative

Hi,

Wanted to bring to your attention that I suggested a niche named Get A Interview but described my music mix show in the body of the niche suggestion. Which I should've put in title as well, it should've been Get on the Dj BME Mix Show. Is it a way we can edit or change title before it gets rejected out? Or is it a feature that can be added? I want to push that niche and my brand at same time. @Malkazoid and @Emily Barnett gave me some good pointers on it as well as @Christina Gleason.

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Hello Jerrod

Thanks for posting this on the forum!

I think the most important aspect of your request, which is one that has come up before, is that you know what needs fixing, and you want to fix it... but because the Alpha does not yet give you the functionality, you can't do it right now.

I completely understand that the @Narrative Network Team has to stick to their development schedule and may not yet be able to include the functionality to submit changes to niche suggestions, mid-approval, but in that case, we should remove or greatly reduce the penalties people receive.

@JerrodBelcher will get a small rep hit, and be blocked from suggesting niches for several days, perhaps even a week if I remember correctly.

Can't we easily reduce that period now?  To 48 hours, or even take away that lock out completely?

As several community members have already commented many times, we don't need that penalty anymore because Reputation is now in effect.  That should be all the incentive people need to put effort into their niche suggestions.

If we're afraid some people might still post one bad niche suggestion every day for seven days in a row - couldn't we at least allow one rejected niche, and have a short lockout kick in if two rejected niches occur back to back?

This should be very quick to code - and would be very helpful.  New members are the most likely members to have their first suggestions rejected because they are at the beginning of their learning curve, and that is also precisely when people are at their most vulnerable, in terms of feeling Narrative is not treating them fairly.  Let's not whack new users with completely unnecessary sanctions, just because we haven't put in place the necessary functionality to let them correct their mistakes?

For what it is worth. I voted yes for this niche. I trust that Jerrod, wants to fix it, and i don't think it eliminates the possibility of blocking something else, even if he doesn't fix it.

It seems to me he wants to purchase the niche. So maybe the solution is to vote yes and have faith it will get resolved.

Emily Barnett posted:

For what it is worth. I voted yes for this niche. I trust that Jerrod, wants to fix it, and i don't think it eliminates the possibility of blocking something else, even if he doesn't fix it.

It seems to me he wants to purchase the niche. So maybe the solution is to vote yes and have faith it will get resolved.

That's a really difficult consideration: I can see the value of doing so but think of the ramifications.

A) it would be kicking the can further down the road, and we're doing that a lot, on a lot of fronts.  Jerrod isn't the only person suffering from not being able to make fixes, and lots of people are being locked out from suggesting niches for 7 days, unnecessarily.  Just upvoting sends the wrong message to the Narrative Team: something systemic is in dire need of fixing here - and one aspect of the fixing is easy: remove the 7 day lock out.  If we just upvote, that takes the pressure off fixing a root cause: I'm never a fan of doing that unless there is a clear argument why it is the only solution.

B) If we just upvote - we're also setting a bad example to the many newcomers who are learning the voting process from the higher rep users.  We don't want to send them the message that niches that grab a large scope with their name while actually being restricted to one much narrower element, are acceptable.  

I too have faith that Jerrod will buy this niche, and make the changes, but the two considerations above are too important in my view.

The most desirable solution by far is for the @Narrative Network Team to at least engage us on the subject of removing the 7 day lock out after someone suggests a niche that gets rejected.  I'm convinced they can fix this VERY easily, and until they respond to the many instances of the community requesting this change, I'll remain convinced this is a necessary and desirable change.

It isn't just Jerrod and this niche - many people have been negatively impacted by this lock out, and will continue to be until we squarely say the solution begins with removing it.

I think @JerrodBelcher understands and accepts that the niche is faulty - it isn't the downvoting that is the problem: it is the consequences imposed by the system for a rejected niche, that is the problem.

@JerrodBelcher - in case you didn't see @Christina Gleason's comment on the niche approval page: if you suggest the improved niche now, before the other niche is rejected, you can beat the lock out!  Of course you'll still be locked out eventually (unless the Narrative Team make the necessary changes), but at least you'll have snuck in your new niche suggestion beforehand!

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