New Dates on Open Source and Sunsetting Narrative

Product: Narrative

Earlier this week, we announced our intention to open source the Narrative code.  We indicated that it would take us a few days to prepare the code. We began that process and it is taking a bit longer for us to extract some proprietary code and address security issues. We expect to release the open source code for Narrative on January 10, 2020.

We are also extending  the date we will sunset Narrative,  We are now sunsetting Narrative on January 24, 2020 (formerly announced as December 30, 2019).

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Notice the lack of response?  The Narrative community - the wonderful, talented, and committed group of people who gathered here - are gone.

You destroyed that community, with your incompetence, your arrogance, your stupidity.  And that will follow you for the rest of your careers and the rest of your lives.

People believed in you.  They gave you their time, their money, and  their creative efforts.  They tried to help you make Narrative a success.  You failed them.  And that will not be forgotten.  


Well, sad to say, but this is correct. I totally understand your frustration, @WillD.

I really hope that the team will take necessary and honest steps to enable an open-source Narrative, together with the existing platform, as I wrote here: https://community.narrative.or...n-sourcing-narrative

Legal steps and involving the SEC should not be our goal, unless we are left with no other option. I remain confident that the team wants to avoid this and will support an open-source Narrative.



Not an old member of "Narrative", not a niche owner, not formally "certified", and without a high number next to my name.

Just interested in publishing in-depth independent content in my specialist fields, without the "control" of an editorial staff.

If I get a little money for it, surely fine. But it is not my main motive.

Although I was admittedly surprised by not even a dollar for three thorough articles which cannot be found anywhere else on the web and, as I may add, provide quite irrefutable new discoveries.

So after that announcement of the nearing end of Narrative I have looked into the existing alternatives.

The most informative and knowledgeable source for me in this latter regard is Scott Cunningham.

Here is his critical assessment of Narrative:

See also his video there.

Any response?

Best, Hans

Dear Scott,

Thanks for all your work, SCOTTCBUSINESS!

I have read your analyses and comparisons on "Minds" with great interest.

For my needs (see above and the articles):

What would be the best platform?

Of the ones you recommend (Minds, Library, Uptrend, Steem, Publish OX), and adding here Medium and HubPages?

There are no comparable platforms on the German-speaking web (to my knowledge at least).

Don't mind some more money than one dollar, either :-)!

If you ask me on Narrative:

All revenues, expenses and payoffs should be made fully transparent; and the initial promises be kept!


I noted that you dont go into HubPages, which seems to be large, good for in-depth articles, and be paying fairly.

scottcbusiness posted:

@Colleen Ryer they were bidded on, so I was comparing the average niches for what the bids were at. People! Narrative raised over 5 million dollars and paid out less than $2,000. Where did the money go in one year?...

Appreciate the shout out @Hans Gruber

Most had only one bidder . The initial funds were raised in Neo, which was worth a lot more at the time of the sale than what it was a year later, like all the rest of the cryptocurrency.

@Colleen Ryer, @scottcbusiness is right in one regard. Some niches went for well above the $75 minimum bid. Some speculative bidders fought hard to ensure they got the niches they wanted and their USD investment on some of those niches was quite impressive. I think one of the staff members alluded to a niche sale in the thousands (USD) at one point. However, it would likely take some serious legwork to get the exact average sale for all niches since it was done in phases (i.e. founders and patrons had first dibs, but since I wasn't around then, I have no idea how that was conducted or what price they paid for their niches.

@Hans Gruber, I've played around on several of these sites, as well. While some of them show some promise, I'd say Steemit is still the market leader. It's an uphill battle for newbies, but diligence, patience, and great content can move you into Minnow status within a year. That's still a small fish, but it's a bigger small fish with a bit more freedom in voting power and the beginning of growing into a bigger fish.

Regarding HubPages, it's a solid content platform, but it isn't based on crypto. If you're okay with that, I'd recommend it.

@Hans Gruber it's my pleasure. I'd say for writing specifically, Steemit and Publish0x are going to be your best bets in the current market. Somee might have some potential, but it's the newest and I think Uptrennd is worth using (it's growing fast and their token might start shooting up in value. LBRY's LBC has recently gone way up, but that's for video content

To the differing views on "Narrative" expressed above:

Even if Scott isn't fully right but just near the truth Narrative has been far from its claim of "Members Earn 85% of All Revenue".

In this case his summarizing accusation of the "scam" would be correct.

To really clarify this, all the exact figures (revenues, expenses, net profit, and payouts) should be laid out and evidenced.

The only way. Claims, no matter how well worded, and reality often differ.

Have a great new year!

Thank you @scottcbusiness and GARDEN GNOME PUBLICATIONS

# I will have a closer look at the platforms you recommend.

# Blockchain and cryptocurrency are not the key criterion for me. There are good reasons for it, but also against it (as far as I can judge it as a relative non-insider).

Background technocrats can control all digital financial transactions and use them for vetting the individual.

This is why money in cash is increasingly "removed" altogether (see Sweden as their big "laboratory").

And I would prefer some more money being paid conventionally to less money being paid unconventionally.

# So I don't exclude HubPages. I find this article by Marc Hubs quite informative:

# But my main criterions would be non-financial:

How strongly is in-depth content invited and offered, how large is the spiritual and "Buddhist" section, or how much space do special political subjects receive (e. g. the explanation of the increasing weather chaos through the longstanding and extensive geoengineering instead of the key life gas CO2, the lie- or "false flag"-based wars, technocracy, 5 G, psychopathy, etc.)

@Colleen Ryer, to do that, crypto isn't necessary. For some people, it would be a distraction.

@Hans Gruber, it sounds like HubPages and Medium might be more to your style. However, if you want to ensure that you can content remains alive without much risk of disappearing, I'd say Steemit is a good alternative. And if you don't care about earnings, you might be pleasantly surprised one day to wake up and find yourself with thousands of STEEM you'll have to figure out what to do with.


Thanks again. I will "feel" those sites proposed by you and Scott C. "out".

# Just had a proper look at HubPages before and was e. g. impressed by their huge FAQ. The platform is very old.

So that "risk of disappearing" of my content seems small at least to me. Why should it happen on such an established site?

# What I don't like about them is that they put commercial ads right into the articles (but if one has a choice about the kind of ads it would be somewhat acceptable).

Also, you can publish a particular article only on that site!

# What I like about Narrative is the design and the formatting.

# But that above discussed money issue  (that they apparently have been nowhere near their big claim of 85 % payouts of the revenues) is of course a huge negative.

Their small final text or "quick explanation" also has a very irritating "smell".

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