Hey @Melanie Mathos @Ted and the rest of the Company team. I really like how you have incorporated a patreon-like model to the Publication section, and for the easing into it with respects to timing. From a member perspective I think it is important that the implementation is slower on this. I think we all stand to benefit from building up our following as consistent quality content-makers before jumping into the publication arena. I also feel that many of us initial investors, will want to see our niches grow, and realize some financial outcomes before going for round two of investment, and further competition.

Thanks for this exciting and somewhat surprising approach to Publications.

 

Emily Barnett posted:

Oh! Question, since it is USD incoming and USD outgoing (no NRVE involved initially), and that  7% already goes to the company, I am safe in assuming there is no other 15% Fiat fees, correct?

Yes, that is correct. And thanks for sharing your thoughts on Publications. 

JerrodBelcher posted:

What about digital mags? Like flipboard?

Hey Jerrod! Publications can certainly support a digital magazine as owners can have their own brands, set their own content tone, determine exactly who can post content, and even establish an editorial level of control. What aspect of Flipboard appeals to you most? What type of features would you like to see supported in Narrative Publications?

Wow! Really?! This is so exciting, I like everything about flipboard I been with them for a couple years. I contribute to my mags daily and also can collab with others on my mags as well. I'm a indie music owner of Business Minded Entertainment LLC so music is a major factor in my life lol. I would like to see Narrative and flipboard partner to implement together it would be huge, also to be able to get this in the premium membership is awesome. How would I apply my digital mag to play a part of the publication feature?

https://flipboard.com/@jerrodb...nd-booking-klfv58v1y This one of my main music mags I work on for indie artists for promotion, services, resources etc. #HaveALook

Here is my Narrative Digital Mag:

https://flipboard.com/@jerrodb...nt-economy-bsd86970y

And lastly here is the link to contribute to the Narrative Mag:

http://flip.it/nkL51F

I read Ted's article:
"Publications are a special type of channel on Narrative that gives their owners control over the content posted within. Unlike Niches, which are public resources that anyone can post to, Publications are more like private property. The Publication owners can have their own brands, set their own content tone, determine exactly who can post content, and even establish an editorial level of control.

While Niches are distinct subject silos, Publications are more like magazines where an owner makes the rules and can be selective on content. Importantly, content posted to a Publication, can still be associated with Niches, to ensure that the subject matter reaches the community surrounding each niche subject." - Ted

"can" meaning, the publication owner can circumvent the niche system, and profit without sharing potentially 'niche related' content for profit. 

- Where do these "Publications" and "channels" fit into the Niche, Content Creator, Moderator model?
- Are these separate from, or additions to?
- My concern is that if I can create my own Channel/Publication and get 90% of the revenue from Premium access, why bother with Niches, Moderation and Content Producing for someone else's niche? 

I'd like to hear more details on how this is going to work with the niche/moderator/creator format that we've all invested our time and money into. 

Thank you! 

JerrodBelcher posted:

Wow! Really?! This is so exciting, I like everything about flipboard I been with them for a couple years. I contribute to my mags daily and also can collab with others on my mags as well. I'm a indie music owner of Business Minded Entertainment LLC so music is a major factor in my life lol. I would like to see Narrative and flipboard partner to implement together it would be huge, also to be able to get this in the premium membership is awesome. How would I apply my digital mag to play a part of the publication feature?

https://flipboard.com/@jerrodb...nd-booking-klfv58v1y This one of my main music mags I work on for indie artists for promotion, services, resources etc. #HaveALook

Here is my Narrative Digital Mag:

https://flipboard.com/@jerrodb...nt-economy-bsd86970y

And lastly here is the link to contribute to the Narrative Mag:

http://flip.it/nkL51F

Very cool! And thanks for helping spread the word via your Narrative Mag! Here are the details on how Publications will work: https://spec.narrative.org/docs/publications

Erik Blair posted:

I read Ted's article:
"Publications are a special type of channel on Narrative that gives their owners control over the content posted within. Unlike Niches, which are public resources that anyone can post to, Publications are more like private property. The Publication owners can have their own brands, set their own content tone, determine exactly who can post content, and even establish an editorial level of control.

While Niches are distinct subject silos, Publications are more like magazines where an owner makes the rules and can be selective on content. Importantly, content posted to a Publication, can still be associated with Niches, to ensure that the subject matter reaches the community surrounding each niche subject." - Ted

"can" meaning, the publication owner can circumvent the niche system, and profit without sharing potentially 'niche related' content for profit. 

- Where do these "Publications" and "channels" fit into the Niche, Content Creator, Moderator model?
- Are these separate from, or additions to?
- My concern is that if I can create my own Channel/Publication and get 90% of the revenue from Premium access, why bother with Niches, Moderation and Content Producing for someone else's niche? 

I'd like to hear more details on how this is going to work with the niche/moderator/creator format that we've all invested our time and money into. 

Thank you! 

Hey Erik! (For the benefit of those new) Narrative has/will have:

Personal Journals
Personal Journals offer users a space where only their content can be posted. The content is not moderated and all members can view/comment.

Niches
Niches are communal subjects that anyone can post to. Each Niche has an owner, who is rewarded based on the overall quality of content in the channel.

Publications
Publications are special channels designed for companies, personal brands, organizations or publishers that want to control who can post and manage the content on their channels.

Content Creators can contribute to their Personal Journal only or choose to submit their content to up to three relevant Niches to extend their reach. (And earn Rewards.)

There are many differences between Niches and Publications - here are a few, but would suggest reading the spec if you want more detail:

Niche Moderators are elected, whereas Publications can choose to set their own Moderators (and Editors) if they choose to (or not). Unlike Niches, publication owners and moderators do not participate in Network Rewards. They also support a limited amount of authorized content creators, depending on the subscription level. As I mentioned before, anyone can contribute to Niches, so therein lies another big difference.

However, with this new Premium Membership model, Publication Owners may choose to charge a recurring fee for access to content within their channel that they classify as “premium.” With that format, it is simply supply and demand.

Alternately, all Content Creators/Niche Owners receive dedicated rewards based on the popularity of the content. 

I hope that helps explain the difference! Happy to answer any other questions you have.

I sincerely appreciate the information. 
I read the "spec" on both Publications and Niches, and this is my take:

If I wanted to take advantage of a specific Topic to funnel traffic and earn revenue by establishing a strong content stream, I have two options:

Niches -- topic/brand specific, very structured, less flexibility for niche owners, sluggishly-long startup process, or

Publications -- also topic/brand specific, with less formal structure, more freedom, and control for publication owners, quicker startup.

I see a potential problem. 

Example: 
Jonny suggests a niche, "Fried Chicken". Then he has to wait to see if the community votes to move it forward to bidding. If it makes it, then Jonny has to bid and compete for the Niche. If he's lucky he gets it. Then Jonny has to watch out for similar Niches coming out of the woodwork to compete with a popular niche. He'll have to downvote a suggested similar if he finds one, and report it to the tribunal if it gets past that point. Once he has "Fried Chicken" then he has to find moderators which is an arduous process that may never amount to any coming forward. And then Jonny has to hope and pray for content creators to come forward, or he has to recruit them.
If all the planets align, over the course of 2-3 months or more, Jonny has a niche and that channel has content, and no competition. Jonny's new niche channel is:

narrative.org/n/fried-chicken

Everything is going great until Rex comes in, sees Jonny's niche, and says, "hey that's a great topic". In less than 15 minutes, Rex plops down $99 to buy a Publication called, yep, you guessed it, "fried chicken". That publication is approved in 72 hours or so, and then Rex gets his new channel at:

narrative.org/p/fried-chicken

Rex has much more control over his content, channel, and moderators. Both the URLs are so similar that few would even notice they're different. If I created a storefront called, "Fried Chicken" and somebody opened up a business next door called, "Fried Chicken" that would be a huge problem, wouldn't it?

I'm not sure what the compensation model is for Publication ownership, but if the above is true, and I can just jump onto a clever topic niche by creating my own Publication, it seems that dilutes the potency of Niches all together. 

I'm probably 100% wrong on all this, so enlighten me, please. 

Sorry for my confusion and "new member" naivety. Thank you! 

 

No need to feel sorry for being new @Erik Blair There is really a lot to digest here. I have been around since the very beginning, so I have the benefit of having a longer learning curve, as well as watching things develop and getting to grasp changing parts, as they get introduced, rather than all at once. I can imagine it is overwhelming just entering this system now.

On a different thread I addressed what I understand the differences, and how they don't compete, because they are two totally different compensation/rewards systems niches and publications.

you can read what i wrote here. https://community.narrative.or...48#16094635895297848

for anybody else reading this. In a nutshell Publications don't participate in the Narrative rewards pool. Content is only financially rewarded by getting 90% of the monthly fees that people pay the publication, for the ability to read content posted behind a paywall. If nobody signs up as paid members, then the content makes no money. So there is no real need to worry about redundant topics on the publication side.

@Erik Blair I am always still learning about the platform too. Just the other day a member explained something to me, that I had really misunderstood. And it was a really big fundamental part. There is so much new on this platform to digest. really different ways of doing things. I think that is one of the components that has really strengthen the community. I think the smartest thing that Narrative did straight away was put this community board up for us all to discuss things. It has solidified us in a way that in turn strengthens the platform.

@Emily Barnett one of the biggest lessons I learned today...  that there is a doc for everything -- https://spec.narrative.org/docs/ 
I asked about this some time ago and was just given an answer. Now I have something to look deeper for answers.  All this time I wondered how people know so much and I could not find those same answers  

Thank you again! 

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